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Stevepol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 02:46 PM
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Avante, et al.: Accessible and Auditable machines: A Survey.
Why don't we hear more about the voting machines that would truly be voter verified and auditable (and also take care of under- and over-votes and other problems?

Here's a site where some of these alternatives are discussed. Somebody needs to teach Avante how to market their product. It's probably a hundred times better machine than any Diebold machine.

Here's a link. Take a look:

http://www.eff.org/Activism/E-voting/e-vote_white_paper_20040517.php
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 04:20 PM
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1. SO true-- I have met with the guys from Princton
They are a bunch of geeks who read the specs for Voting equipment and then designed a machine to address each mandate.
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Boredtodeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 04:43 PM
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2. Perhaps because they are ethical
Edited on Fri Jan-06-06 04:44 PM by Boredtodeath
Watch the May 5, 2004 EAC hearing (CSPAN archives). Near the end of the hearings, a Gracia Hilman/Chung from Avante exchange says "it happened once" when pressed on what the vendors would do if they were presented with what they considered an illegal request from an elections official. That's at 2:47:30 on the video and the CEO adds - "but we made the customer sign a statement that it was illegal and they would take responsibility for it."

You can watch the video with Real Player here:
http://switchboard.real.com/player/email.html?PV=6.0.12&&title=Public%20Affairs%20Programming&link=rtsp%3A%2F%2Fvideo.c%2Dspan.org%2Fproject%2Fc04%2Fc04050504%5Fvoting.rm


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Stevepol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 08:37 PM
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3. I watched last year or two years ago Avante at a committee hearing
I believe where the Elections Advisory Committee or some such group was interviewing the various reps for the voting machines prior to the 04 election. The Big guys, Diebold, ES&S, and a couple others, were represented by guys in suits and ties who gilded the lily in discussing their product. The Avante rep was a recent immigrant from Taiwan I think, hard to understand, but obviously extremely honest and sincere. They needed some slick talkers to represent them, somebody from Princeton maybe.

I can believe that the exchange you talk about happening actually did take place, BoredtoDeath.

Thanks
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Boredtodeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 09:24 PM
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4. I met him in Atlanta
When he demonstrated his voter verified paper ballot system to a state senate committee. Very nice, straightforward, honest man.
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