Why ATMs are Not Analogous to Voting Machines

[Land Shark]

Those of you willing to assist in the good of the cause can help edit and critique the document with the above title at:

<http://f3.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/UO98Q_Juo67ThA-LA6xgvienQML68ltNvBw3ZxJfGp7hOAeAyFA8kLfdgkUxHCjEARg8xQQ1IoZupES1DV-WQND679QpWQ/ATM%20vs%20%20voting%20machines.doc>

if the link doesn't work, let me know.

Those who self-identify as naysayers, as well as those who don't so self-identify but who may, objectively speaking, be naysayers, please understand that identifying the points that you agree with is actually more valuable even than identifying the points you disagree with, and will help bolster the credibility you desire, and often deserve. This is not to say that critiques should be suppressed, it's just that speaking only to the negative distorts the representation one makes inherently as to ones state of mind regarding the subject in question.

The above reality of the positive being somewhat more important than the negative for naysayers is a function of the fact that an intelligent mind can dispute anything, so the mere existence of criticism from an intelligent mind is of little moment PER SE, depending on its other merits. But, if one's intelligent and naysaying mind finds something convincing on the positive side, well,..... that absence of any substantial contrary inference might be a sign of something to build on. Eh??

Fire up your engines, naysayers! If the case made is poor, tell us what a good case would be!

[Stevepol]

1. Great Post. Kicked and recommended!

[Land Shark]

7. New post with text linked to at this link (please use other thread)

<http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x401865>

[yowzayowzayowza]

2. Link no werkie fer me.

[Land Shark]

4. No werkie now for me either, so I will shortly get the text and post here

But, given your wisdom regarding "expectation management" you probably didn't expect much, and therefore aren't disappointed. But when you see it finally, you'll be positively impressed. This is good.

[Bill Bored]

5. No worky, but the main difference is:

with the ATM, both participants in the transaction (the customer and the bank) are known to each other and the customer gets a statement confirming the transaction at the end of the month that shows the money was deposited as cast, uh I mean counted as deposited, uh...well you know what I mean! No secret ballots with ATMs so you verify your vote, er...deposit!

[Febble]

6. Absolutely

There is a fundamental reason why the ATM model is completely inappropriate for voting, which is the principle of the secret ballot.

You couldn't run a banking system if the bank wasn't allowed to know which accounts belonged to which customer.

The whole idea of electronic voting is absurd.

[DELUSIONAL]

3. Link doesn't work "document not found"