Remind me. How are DIEBOLD and ES&S related?

[Ladyhawk]

Isn't there some kind of cronyism between the two or is it DIEBOLD and another voting machine company?

[Botany]

1. Brothers own the companies

one owns EES the other owns Diebold

[Ladyhawk]

That's what I thought. Can you point me to more information about

ES&S? I recently found out we have their scanners in my county and I'm pissed.

LH

[acmejack]

2. Urosevich brothers, Bob and Todd.

"Diebold and ES&S, will count (using both computerized ballot scanners and touchscreen machines) about 80 percent of all votes cast in the upcoming U.S. presidential election."

[Junkdrawer]

3. Robert Ahmanson (RW Fundie billionaire)....

invested big money into the predecessors of ES&S and Diebold.

http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/031004Fitrakis/031004fitrakis.html

[skids]

4. Funny you used the word "related"...

...now that you know the answer is "by blood," eh?

[Stevepol]

5. I think it started with AIS, the company that counted Hagel's victory

in NE where he got 83% of the vote, even carrying black counties in Lincoln which had never goine Repub. Of course, he was one of the owners or maybe CEO of AIS (American Information Systems) before he ran for Congress. He resigned from the company before running.

Thom Hartmann says he was the first Dem senator from NE elected in 24 years (?) when he won that election in 1996. Pundits around the country called it the most amazing political victory (up to that time) in American history (or something to that effect). Of course since then there've been many strange elections, the gov's race in GA 02 for example, just to pick one. The 04 election would qualify as a pretty strange one too for anybody familiar with the exit polls.

I believe Bob Urosevic became head of AIS when or before it became ES&S. Then, he left ES&S to take a job at Diebold in the election division there, leaving the leadership of ES&S to his brother Todd. I would presume the programs he worked out were shared at some point with his brother.

I'd like to be a fly on the wall when these brothers get together to talk shop.

I believe I've got the facts straight. They can be easily fact-checked I think on google.

[diva77]

6. correction - Hagel is a Repub (I know that's what you meant)

[Amaryllis]

7. Here: info on them and their incestuous relationships

http://www.ecotalk.org/VotingMachineCompanies.htm

http://www.freepress.org/columns/display/3/2004/834

http://www.publicaccountability.org/election.html

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=98730