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milkyway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 06:16 PM
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Some ES&S info. There seems to be many problems with them.
Edited on Wed Nov-10-04 06:17 PM by milkyway
Vanderbergh County, Indiana will be auditing the results of the November 2 election. See DU discussion here.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x37992

And here's a local Indiana report from March of this year:

“Can you tell us that ES&S is going to do everything they can comply? That they're going to comply?” Jill Jackson asked ES&S officials.

Compliance also means a test next week of software illegally used in the November election. “We'll run some votes, print some results. We'll verify that everything's correct,” said Robb McGinnis, ES&S.

But the clerk doesn't trust them. Neither do the members of the Indiana election commission.

“I just think I was absolutely lied to by your CEO and I'm more than on the slow burn about it. I think you guys sat in this room and you all lied to me,” said Brian Burdick, Indiana election commissioner, to ES&S at a meeting on Wednesday. Commissioner S. Anthony Long angrily told ES&S Vice President Ken Carbullido that he would fine ES&S if he could have done so.

http://www.wishtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=1712213&nav=0Ra7LXSW
http://www.wishtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=1647886&nav=0Ra7JXq2

The name McGinnis pops up a lot when reading about ES&S. There is at least four of them. A possibly very important story about tampering with voting machines in Auglaize County, Ohio a few weeks ago involved a Joe McGinnis.

In a letter dated Oct. 21, Ken Nuss, former deputy director of the Auglaize County Board of Elections, claimed that Joe McGinnis, a former employee of Election Systems and Software (ES&S), the company that provides the voting system in Auglaize County, was on the main computer that is used to create the ballot and compile election results, which would go against election protocol. Nuss claimed in the letter that McGinnis was allowed to use the computer the weekend of Oct. 16. http://www.theeveningleader.com/articles/2004/11/06/news/news.01.txt

Dan McGinnis is a VP of ES&S. http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com/2001-September/006610.html

There is also a Keith McGinnis. Three of the four McGinnis's were at this meeting in Indiana. http://www.in.gov/sos/elections/iec/minutes/min12799.html

So Joe McGinnis, who was caught tampering with a computer in Ohio a couple of weeks ago, is not just any employee. Apparently, he's related to top management.

What's interesting about the Auglaize article Is that it describes Joe McGinnis as a former employee. I'd like to know why that is.

Also, Ken Nuss, who disclosed the tampering, has stepped down, effective tomorrow (I forget where I came across that, and I forgot to copy the link). That's a bit puzzling. I wonder if there is anything else he could add to this story.
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Ducks In A Row Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 06:30 PM
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1. oh please please please let election officals get PISSED OFF
they were used, as much as the voters were by these slimy pieces of bush-supporting shit.

Sue the crap out of ES&S and put them OUT OF BUSINESS!
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 06:32 PM
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2. WOW - this is interesting
I hope Vanderbergh County has had these machines locked down.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 06:44 PM
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3. Send this to Keith Olbermann
at MSNBC
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Magic_Cookie Donating Member (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 06:46 PM
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4. Another interesting article from that site:
Edited on Wed Nov-10-04 06:52 PM by Magic_Cookie
March 24, 2004
County Hires Former Voting Machine Co. Worker as Election Consultant

Johnson County has hired an election consultant. He's the same man a voting machine company fired last month as the county's project manager.

Doug Orange worked for Election Systems and Software. County Clerk Jill Jackson told I-Team 8 she believes he was fired for refusing to zero the counters on touch-screen voting machines at the courthouse instead of at the polls as Indiana law requires.

The clerk lobbied to hire Orange for the May primary. ES&S says it will work toward another successful election in the county.


April 22, 2004
Election Worker Refuses to Lie for Voting Software Company
I-Team 8 has more information on a woman who disobeyed her company by telling the truth.

Wendy Orange works for Election Systems and Software, known as ES&S, which sold Marion County its voting system.

Marion County Clerk Doris Anne Sadler revealed Tuesday that the company installed illegal software before last November's election.
http://www.wishtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=1806520&nav=0Ra7JXq2
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milkyway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 12:04 AM
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5. kick.
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