I love NY! Wait til you see what they've come up with now!

[Bill Bored]

DU readers heard it here first!

As predicted, NY will comply with HAVA alright -- WITH LEVER MACHINES!!!

<http://www.timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=372107&category=STATE&newsdate=6/21/2005>

Watch how fast the losers in DC require VVPATs now!

In a way, I hope they don't; leave it up to the states where such matters can get an UP OR DOWN VOTE! We are more than capable of counting our votes without corporate intervention -- thank you very much.

I hope we can now push for 100% hand counts of all VVPATs in the state. VVPATs will of course be REQUIRED FOR ANY DREs. But DREs, if any, will only be required for disabled voters by 2007.

Now we don't want to disenfranchise those folks do we? They have fought long and hard for the right to vote independently. It would be a shame indeed to force them to lose their vote to unproven, unverified DREs. So let's count every VVPAT by hand that their Accessible machines produce!

Paper Ballots/Op Scan are still on the agenda. There are some places where the cost of DREs are just prohibitive.

But for now, it looks like it's LEVER MACHINES!

Hack 10,000 of those beasts, Blackwell and Rove, go ahead, I dare ya! You'll have to do it the old fashioned way, one at a time!

Estimated man-hours: PLENTY!

Conspiracy required: Huge!

Likelihood of success with a truly bi-partisan BOE: negligible.

So just move on to the next state thanks.

And BTW, we WILL have a FULLY Bi-partisan State BOE!

We don't need no stinkin' SOSs to run our elections either!

Vive la resistance!

[FogerRox]

1. Looks like someone else found that 2007 deadline in HAVA

LOL >wink<

[emcguffie]

2. I like lever machines --

-- but would like to point out that on Nov. 2 2004, when I pulled the lever for Mr. K., it did not feel like it normally feels. There was no "connection", no little tug, no click.

I said to myself, hmm, that feels funny.... but didn't think another thing about it. Until I started reading about stolen elections.

My state still went to Kerry. But people can, and do, cheat with lever machines too. Although the proof is there to see, if you can look at them before they repair them.

Just a note.

[Bill Bored]

4. The are not perfect, but they are hard to tamper with in large quantities.

Unlike DREs and their management systems, it takes more than a click of a mouse to steal an election with lever machines.

[Senior citizen]

3. We've still got problems in California, though.

The pukes got rid of the Secretary of State because he had decertified Diebold (all they'd done was defraud 17 California counties by selling them uncertified software), and replaced him with a corporate shill.

The Voting Systems and Precedure Panel is open for public comments until June 30th, but so far they don't seem to be listening to the comments. We need them to deny certification to Diebold and ban them from doing business in CA, and also decertify ES&S. We need open source software. And the AVVPATs this panel wants are too small to read and printed on thermal paper so that they will fade before a recount is possible. Plus, all they record is how the MACHINE voted, not how the voter voted.

Contact the VSPP at the Office of the CA Sec'ty of State, Attn: Bruce McDannold, 1500 11th St, 5th floor, Sacramento CA 95814 FAX: [phone]

Hooray for New York! My daughter and grandson are there, so I love NY too -- and now I love it even more.

[LightningFlash]

5. Three cheers for New York!

Now just get the other states on the ball to follow.