Just got email from Michael Moore asking for ideas on next move. Tell 'em.

[Amaryllis]

Just now got this from MM. So, anyone have any ideas for him? :)

Friends,

How's it going? Ready for the next step?

Let me know what you've been up to and any ideas you have about what our next move should be (write me at the addresses below).

Meanwhile, I'll be in conclave this week handing out goodie bags and running for pope. Wish me well!

Yours,

Michael Moore
[e-mail]
[e-mail]
www.michaelmoore.com

[Vektor]

1. I just dropped him a line...

...and mentioned that I thought our train wreck of a 2004 election needed a little spotlight shone on it.
:-)

[The Devils Advocate]

7. Me too.

:)

[Vektor]

11. Coooool...

:-)

[FreedomAngel82]

27. Yes

Definietly the election! I thought I heard him say he was going to do a movie on that?? I would like that very much. He should get in touch with David Cobb, John Conyers and Cliff Arnebeck.

[krystine]

2. Our next move.

We have to do something to stop this theocracy the right wingers are forcing down our throat. Secondly something has to be done to prevent the impending war on Iran. Third, we need to at least take bake the House in '06. Mostly we need to spread left wing media and start a left wing cable news outlet to counter FOX. AAR is doing a great job, but we need a lot to catch up. Micheal want to head up our answer to FOX News?

[Kip Humphrey]

63. Investigate and report: the RNC

How about MM does a documentary of how the Republican party was stolen by John Birchers and the Religious Right, beginning in the late 60's and early seventies? DO you think Republicans would like to know what happened to their party? How about exposing the fact that the same guy who established the Moral Majority, and the Committee for National Defense (CND), a committee whose members sit on the boards of over 300 interlocking organizations that comprise the present day RNC, co-authored the Left Behind series intended as a handbook for bringing on Armageddon?

The Guy? Tim LeHaye, a sixties failed Louisiana tent preacher who came to engineer the takeover of the Republican Party and the present-day hierarchical structure we call the RNC, and who single handily convinced 20 million evangelical Christians to work toward realizing the end of the world. Don't know much about him? Learn - KNOW THINE ENEMY and the enemy of civilization as we know it!

[brainshrub]

3. I thought he was working on an expose of our health-care system?

[KaliTracy]

6. perhaps he is in the finishing stages? nt

[tavalon]

24. Whether he is or he isn't

What he's been dealing with since the reselection is severe depression. I'm glad to see him poking his nose out. It gives me hope for his mental health.

[Frederik]

4. Michael for pope!

[KaliTracy]

5. recommended... just popped in to see if it had been posted yet

Next move? Reporting on broken elections. Fixing broken elections.

Supporting Democratic Congress as they vote Against Bolton, and others, and hold Delay accountable.

Send him links/articles/information

He Asked -- so we all need to Tell Him!

[satya]

8. Told him to expose election fraud. Recommended. n/t

[MelissaB]

9. Nominated. I just got mine, too.

Election fraud? Media? So many to choose from...

[Bryn]

10. How about the New Bankruptcy Law that

will prey on middle/poor class, the elderly, sick people, people who lose jobs due to outscourcing, etc., but gives the rich a big loophole? Why did they want this bill to pass? Why haven't they explained WHY this reform is necessary for Americans because the current system has worked well and US trustees/Judges are the ones to decide for years if people filing for bankruptcy deserve to get their debts discharged? Did they (who voted to pass this bill) get bribes from banks and credit companies which would be illegal, wouldn't it?? What made them bend over for those corporations?

"Loads of people have filed bankruptcy Ð Mark Twain, Buster Keaton, Walt Disney. Bankruptcy is a very American safety net. It's part and parcel of the American dream." Ð Keith Lundin, a federal bankruptcy judge in Tennessee

[EC]

12. Maybe he should do a film

on the Meaning and Keeping of Democracy...

[KaliTracy]

13. Good Suggestion... n/t

[Amaryllis]

14. Expose election fraud. Expose election fraud. Expose election fraud.

[Califooyah Operative]

19. that's what I said too nt

[Amaryllis]

43. Saw you said that. Why aren't more people saying that? NOTHING

else will mattter if we don't deal with that and get back some seats in congress.

[jen4clark]

52. Yup!

That's what I wrote him as well. If election fraud isn't fixed, nothing else we do will matter.

HELP US MR WIZARD!!!:dilemma:

[Amaryllis]

15. Documentary on political, financial ties of voting systems companies.

[LibertyorDeath]

16. Make a New Documentary all about Police States

what they are how they come about.

[LatePeriduct]

61. I wonder why Carter....

Jimmy Carter seems to be so interested and open to reforming our electoral system now?

Can't be because the voting machine makers made him their spokesperson....say it isn't so. This smells so much like a cult action....

[myschkin]

17. Telepathy?

Just wanted to make the same post :-)

And of course I wrote him a lot... :-)

[Amaryllis]

18. Film on criminal background of voting systems software developers.

[MelissaB]

20. and how Jimmy Carter's group wouldn't even monitor our election

because things are so bad.

[Amaryllis]

21. Surprised more aren't mentioned election reform. None of the rest will

matter if we don't get a grip on elections by 2006 and lose more congressinal seats.

[Chi]

22. The media falling in line with the GOP, and the pressure exerted on them

[LatePeriduct]

31. kick

[Stevepol]

23. Ditto. Here's my message.

Michael,

I'm a PhD (with an extra MA in a different field) who is concerned (to put it mildly) about the vote rigging that has presently hi-jacked our democracy. It really started in GA in 02 with one of the most obvious election frauds in history. Check out the pre-election polls and exit polls (now unavailable on the IT) and compare them with the alleged results. Check out Bev Harris's Black Box Voting story about the GA election. Then check out Steven Freeman's (with 8 or 9 other PhD statisticians) analysis of the 04 election, which Kerry won by a comfortable margin. If this isn't the makings of a blockbuster movie I don't know what is. Investigate GEMS in Vancouver (Diebold's vote-rigging programming division), try (if you can find him) to interview Jeffrey Dean, the guy who served 5 years in the slammer for embezzlement by falsifying computer programs in a sophisticated scheme over a 2 1/2 year period then hired on probably to write the program for the GA Diebold fiasco. The Electronic voting scam is the biggest con game / scam in American history, maybe world history. There's never been a better story in the history of the world.

[Quixote1818]

25. I told him to do a movie based on the Jefferson Bible

How about a movie about Jesus based on the Jefferson Bible?


Michael,
If you produced a movie based on the Jefferson Bible it would certainly be considered controversial right from the start! It would most certainly make a tone of money but more importantly it would bring to light in a major way HOW our founders thought! A story of Jesus who was very liberal, looked out for the poor and the sick and did not judge even hookers.

The following website describes Jefferson's beliefs in this way:
Jefferson discovered a Jesus who was a great Teacher of Common Sense. His message was the morality of absolute love and service. Its authenticity was not dependent upon the dogma of the Trinity or even the claim that Jesus was uniquely inspired by God. Jefferson saw Jesus as



a man, of illegitimate birth, of a benevolent heart, (and an) enthusiastic mind, who set out without pretensions of divinity, ended in believing them, and was punished capitally for sedition by being gibbeted according to the Roman law.
In short, Mr. Jefferson's Jesus, modeled on the ideals of the Enlightenment thinkers of his day, bore a striking resemblance to Jefferson himself.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/religion/jesus/jefferson.html

This would be a great movie to start a National discussion of who our founders were and what kind of ideas our country is founded upon. It's a movie that NEEDS to be made and you are someone who could and should make it happen! Please consider my suggestion Michael!

[Chicago1]

26. Michael Moore, your AOL email inbox is FULL! Pls clean it OUT

I tried emailing him and his AOL inbox is full. Can't wait until he cleans it out!!

Kerry and Edwards need to START THE REVOLUTION. The Dumb Shrub needs to be kicked out IMMEDIATELY. We can't take this any more. Time for IMPEACHMENT.

THE MAIN STREAM MEDIA NEEDS TO BE DEALT WITH
WHAT A BUNCH OF LIARS



Waiting for the IMPEACHMENT WHLE THE SCANDALS KEEP UNFOLDING
America's Work Stories
http://usaworkstories.blogspot.com
[e-mail]

[bvar22]

28. I would like to see him fire a couple of shots back...

...at the Anti-Labor Democrats(DLC).

Hey, they started it!!!

Michael Moore has the uncontested honor of being the only Private Citizen attacked from the podium at the '04 National Party Conventions (McCain Republican Convention '04) (maybe ever, still looking for another example))

MM also suffers frequent attacks from the Corporate Owned wing of the Democratic Party (the DLC)

Man...the Corporations and the CopoTocracy FEAR the popularity and populism of Michael Moore.

VIVA MM!!!

[bush_is_wacko]

29. I sent him a few suggestions!

I'm sure he knows EVERYTHING, but, honestly, what the hell is he doing? Why the silence?

[Robeysays]

30. election fraud n/t

[Senior citizen]

32. I thought it would be nice if he did a documentary

that talked to U.S. workers whose jobs had been outsourced, then talked to the Mexican workers who got those jobs, until they tried to organized, and who then found the jobs outsourced once more to China, and then a look at the Chinese working conditions and wages for those same jobs, wrapped up by tying it all to a big corporation that has already paid reparations for using slave labor in WWII, showing the history, and then having Michael barge in with his crew to put their PR people and CEOs on the spot.

I don't know if a specific job can be traced like that, but it would certainly make fascism more obvious.

[KaliTracy]

35. wow..... and as well -- all those jobs going overseas means people who

lost jobs here were once paying into Social Security -- and many are still on unemployment (or have rolled off -- but don't have a "real job) right now...

[Virginian]

33. Someone else here tonight had a thread on the Jefferson bible.

He even had a rough outline of a screen play.

[CoffeeCat]

34. I hope to God...

...that Moore has had a camera crew in Iraq for the past year or so.

I know it's highly unlikely, but damn---we need F911, part 2.

[KaliTracy]

36. he said he's making 911 1/2 back after the election...

here's a link about it...

http://comingsoon.net/news/topnews.php?id=7160

Michael Moore tells Variety he met with Harvey Weinstein and they plan to start working now on Fahrenheit 9/11½. "We want to get cameras rolling now and have it ready in two-three years," Moore told columnist Army Archerd.

"We want to document and commercialize it," added Moore, "Fifty-one percent of the American people lacked information (in this election) and we want to educate and enlighten them. They weren't told the truth. We're communicators and it's up to us to start doing it now. The official mourning period is over today and there is a silver lining -- George W. Bush is prohibited by law from running again."

[Amaryllis]

46. He still is attributing losing the election to causes other than fraud.

[KaliTracy]

47. that's why it's important we ALL give him What He Asked For. What is

important to us and WHY. Can't hurt, and it might help. He's got much footage of Florida and Ohio (among others that crews were at) at least documenting the long lines -- etc. He might be like Robert Koehler, who before going to Nashville last week, just thought the elections were messed up, mishandled, etc. Until he went to Nashville and HEARD the people and HEARD the numbers. http://www.commonwonders.com/

I'm not going to second guess him, but I am going to tell him what's on my mind. (FWIW I wrote to him about machine allocation disparity in Ohio immediately after the election.)

[Amaryllis]

51. What;s FWIW? I wrote him numerous times before and after the election

about e-voiing issues.

[KaliTracy]

53. FWIW (For what it's worth) *smile* -- yeah, I wrote him various times

too. Guess we'll see what will happen.

[Amaryllis]

58. Him and MoveOn .How many times have we all written them before we gave up?

[KaliTracy]

60. I haven't given up. I've sent letters to a whole slew of places and at

least one time the complaints I (and thousands of others had) were taken seriously enough to investigate "vote switching" on machines in one Ohio County (Yellowsprings maybe? I'm not at my computer with my emails). This was after NPR had their "voting myths" segment with Pam Fessler and, and, Robert.... (drawing blank, Sigel?) -- the segment with the Dixiecrat explanation for Florida, etc.

Sure, I might be wasting my time -- but when it comes down to it, I want them to take action, or at least Kick Themselves for Not being the first to report on something. I feel -- if enough people do it -- they might start getting the picture (that they should have gotten 5 months ago -- but hey, some film has a very slow developing time....)

NPR irked me the most on January 6 -- their tone and reporting were terrible, and I let them know that, too. One of the things that really irritated me is that they were saying Boxer and Tubbs-Jones were doing this on their own -- I invited NPR's reporters to find out how many thousands of faxes, phone calls and letters ALL of the Representatives in the House and Senate received, that it was the PEOPLE who asked for their representation, but, you know, I must have missed the report in which they gave these numbers.

[Amaryllis]

62. I only meant give up on MoveOn. After thirty or forty emails, I decided

to give up on them. Told them no more money or support until they took eleciton reform seriously; it was what their membership overwhelmigly requested for their main focus, and they've done nothing.

[More Than A Feeling]

37. He should run for office

Representative Michael Moore. How much would that piss off the RWers?

[BlueIris]

38. I told him...how hopeless I think our so-called chances are.

Sorry to those feeling optimistic today, optimism isn't on my radar at the moment. I explained to him why I think we're in the place we're in, how much is sucks, and my "advice" about the putative next move. Which I just...especially WRT election fraud...don't think exists. I'm doing everything I can from my little neck of the woods, but as long as MSM continues to deny the truth, and those in congress continue to resist doing the right thing...I really couldn't believe he'd sent out that e-mail. I was pretty sure he'd thrown in the towell, too.

[super simian]

39. Here's my reply:

Hey Michael!

The presidency of this country was stolen TWICE, and I ain't fergittin!

Our country has been hijacked by warmongers and money grubbing hypocritical thugs who run around driveling at the mouth about moral values, and it makes me sick to my stomach.

That's wassup with me, since you asked!

Warm Regards,
:grr:

[Amaryllis]

42. Good! We need to pound him on this. If he doesn't take this on, might as

well forget the rest.

[super simian]

50. I've tried to send it twice...

...and his inbox is full. Is he playing games with us? :shrug:

[KaliTracy]

55. No - he has a huge number of people on his mailing lists.... he should

be trying to clean them out though.

[super simian]

59. Then I'll keep trying! :-) n/t

[kster]

40. Tell him to keep up with

us,make a movie ,sell some tickets,But we are taking this in our own hands now.He wasn't able to beat the machine.His movie was great ,but it is twice removed from where we are at,(lyrics from a song) "sit back in that chair and let me show you how it's done"thats what you tell him, Thanks Mike but we will get them.NGU

[Wilms]

41. kick n/t

[Amaryllis]

44. Guys! Hello! If he doesn't take on election fraud, you can forget the rest

because none of the rest will matter if we lose /don't take back congressional seats in 2006 due to fraud.

[orpupilofnature57]

45. Stop talking directly to the evil empire, and start with the ? % duped.

[berniew1]

48. There were lots of would be documentary film makers at Nashville Conferenc

they might beat Michael to the punch in 2004; he should have been there.

this URL summarizes the case for Stolen Election 2004 based on combined input of the researchers at the conference. Would be good if Michael was aware of it.
http://www.flcv.com/ohiosum.html

[LatePeriduct]

56. Its almost like mike....

Got paid off or something, especially with the undeniable evidence.

[Amaryllis]

57. I've wondered that too. Or maybe threatened? He doesn't seem like the

type to bow to threats, though. Maybe he just has his own agenda. I don't mind so much if he doesn't get on board, but when he makes statements like Bush won and gets into the whole what do we have to diffrently to win next time thing, he harms what we are working so hard to do. But then, Al Franken is there too, and MoveOn sure isn't getting it, even after all their members named election reform as the number one thing they wanted to work on. It blows me away how they can't or don't see what is so obvious, so then it leaves us wondering if it's that they can't or don't, or there is another reason.

[ccarter84]

49. hahaha his AOL one is full mine just got kicked back n/t

[LatePeriduct]

54. kick

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[Amaryllis]

65. Go, Mom!

[Paddy Maynooth]

66. Michael Moore, please promote the "Who Got Glitched?" DVD

I reckon the single most constructive thing Michael Moore could do for the world right now would be to put his heart into promoting the very exciting and informative "Who Got Glitched?" DVD from the LA teach-in on election reform.

A simple recommendation from Michael Moore, posted to his mailing list, would boost sales of the DVD enormously.

And although the DVD might be seen as a competing product, I actually think that promoting it would benefit Mike later. After all, Mike can only make one new documentary every so often, so his fans are waiting impatiently for something else to watch between now and the release of his next movie. But if he recommends something for us to watch in the meantime, then it will maintain and increase loyalty to the Michael Moore "brand".

Mind you, I would recommend that he first contact the people at CitizensAct to warn them, so that they can make preparations for a flood of requests. :)

Details of the DVD below. I got it last week and I must say, the production values are surprisingly good. The DVD itself is neatly printed, the cover is well designed, and Sheri sent me a detailed list of contributors, plus additional information about "How to Organize an Election Reform Teach-In". She was very prompt and helpful, like a local baker delivering steaming hot, handmade bread with great personal pride.

Best,
Paddy.



'Why does this important filmmaker sleep in his van?"

Hello folks,
Steve Brown spent 42 days, 12 hours a day, editing
the DVD of our "Who Got Glitched?" Los Angeles
Teach-in on Election Reform. WITHOUT PAY

Thanks to Steve, (and Kip Humphries) that DVD will be
handed to the 300 + delegates of the California
Democratic Convention on Saturday. (tonight!)

Thanks to Steve, President Jimmy Carter received this
DVD with voting rights activists at the hearings in
Atlanta. (Carter is head of a national commission on election reform.)

Now that the DVD is finished, Steve has set off to
document the couple from Veterans for Peace who are
traveling America, setting up the 1000 crosses in
various cities to not just stir controversy, but to create a
safe place for public grief.

Steve gives up alot to do the work that needs to be
done, and he does it willingly, but he needs to eat.
When he's on the road, he needs to sleep in a motel,
not the back of his van.

Let's support our freedom fighters on the front lines.

Preview and order the "Who Got Glitched?" DVD at our
website: www.citizensact.org
http://citizensact.org/paypal.html

Citizens Act will pay Steve out of the profits.

And of course, when you host those house parties,
Democracy will profit, too.

Onward,
Sheri Myers