Rasmussen Reports -- Is Bush's Approval Rating Really This High?

[davidgmills]

As I recall, prior to the election, Rasmussen was one of the pollsters who was claiming that Dems and Repubs were an even percentage of the population and weighted his numbers accordingly.

If we use TIA's numbers of Dems v. Repubs based on the 13,047 National Exit Poll, how low would Bush's numbers really be?

What really irks me, is that as long as the myth of Dems v. Repubs being equal continues, the MSM propagandists can claim Bush has more support than he really does.

[raccoon]

1. I have little, if any faith in polls

any more.

YEsterday there was a thread here about some poll saying 55% of Americans believed in the "Rapture." I have no doubt some people do, but I don't think it's THAT many--unless they did the poll in some rural, ultra-conservative area.

Of course, how a question is phrased has a lot to do with the answers you'll get. We never hear the actual question the pollsters asked.

[still_one]

2. forget the polls they mean nothing

even if *s approval was zero percent he would still be the damn president

A few days ago it was reported that widows were giving * a piece of their mind on how veteran benefits are being slashed, and the soldiers do not have the right equipment in iraq, In the same breath the said they don't blame * for iraq, still support him, and voted for him the second term

The only way people learn is when they pay for the consequences of their actions. This has only just begun

It will take another seven years, more deaths, and economic failure before people will realize what a mistake they made

The people that will be mostly affected with the new bankrupcy bill will be those in the red states

The question is why do people vote against their own interest?

[Peace Patriot]

3. If the only hard evidence of majority opinion of Bush is votes in...

...the election, and that hard evidence cannot be trusted, and ALL the soft evidence of opinion polls--many different polls, many kinds of polls, polls on foreign policy, polls on domestic policy, polls on the war, polls on torture, polls on Social Security, polls on the deficit, many polls over time (last year, on his inauguration day, now), not to mention exit polls--say that the majority view of Bush is negative, and not just negative, but negative in the 60% to 70% range on all Bush policy, with general approval of Bush sinking to 45% (and an unprecedented 49% on his inauguration day!), then I think we should pay attention to those numbers, and I think we can use them.

It is the consistency of these polls over time, and across issues, and involving different methods and questions, that is so impressive.

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still_one, you have an awfully sour view of human nature!

"The only way people learn is when they pay for the consequences of their actions." --still_one

So...do you burn or electrify a child to teach him or her to be careful around dangerous things? Or, do you just sit back smugly, as a knowing adult, and watch a child fall off a cliff to "teach him a lesson" that cliffs can be dangerous?

And what do you do if the child manages to survive these "lessons"--yell at him how stupid he is?

You need to think this one through. Sounds like fascist child-rearing to me.

And what if the child does everything in his power to avoid a danger that you have warned him against, and succumbs anyway, and gets hurt? Should your reaction be, "See! I told you so! I am God! I am Authority! I know everything! I am always right!"

The American people actually rose above all the propaganda, and figured out the lies and crimes for themselves, and made an intelligent choice and voted the Bush Cartel out.

Why dwell on the minority who voted for Bush? Why not dwell on the majority who didn't? What that majority needs now is moral support, and facts. They need to know the election was stolen.

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A couple of other facts: The Democrats had a huge blowout success in new voter registration in 2004. Few people know this. And what it means, when you add the numbers up (new voters + Gore 2000 voters + Nader voters switching to Bush), is that it was virtually impossible for Bush to win. And the exit polls say he didn't win--and those numbers (exit poll vs. official tally), also produce impossible odds (ten million to one against the way the official tally was skewed to Bush, vs. the exit polls).

So, in ADDITION to all the opinion polls in which a majority--sometimes a big majority--disapprove of Bush and his policies, there is strong evidence of a wrong result in the election. And when you look at the election system--for instance, control of the vote counting by highly partisan Bush supporters, using secret, proprietary computer programming--the case for election fraud grows ever stronger.

That's why James Baker and other Bush Cartel operatives formed a private "commission" recently, to study the election (and dragged Jimmy Carter into it). They know that the opinion poll numbers, and the exit poll numbers, and all other evidence points to election fraud. They know that the Bush Cartel does NOT represent the majority of Americans, and that they have forced their war on us, and their torture of prisoners, and their looting of the federal government, and all the rest of it. And they want to do a preemptive strike on the election fraud evidence.

I tend to pity Americans (all of us)--even the deluded--for being the victims of these mass murderers and thieves. I do not want any of us to be burned by these criminals any more than we already have been, or to have to "learn a lesson" from them, in order to recover and reorganize our democracy. I think it's possible that things could get really bad, but I don't think the majority of Americans deserves that. The majority deserves our praise, our encouragement, and continuing efforts to inform and empower them.