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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 05:33 PM
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What are our chances here? Why is only MSNBC on the voter fraud story?
Is their a chance in hell the mainstream media will ever get their act together on this? To me even if the problems don't end up being enough to take it away from Bush the Media absolutely should be reporting on all the problems we know are factual. Thats just good honest journalism.
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dogtag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 05:38 PM
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1. Nobody wants to be "Rathered" - - they need to get over it, IMO.
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Revolutionary Mama Donating Member (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 06:28 PM
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10. About that "Rathered" crack...
I regret that Dan Rather allowed himself to be set up, especially since he's tenured enough to know that his refusal to comply to the fascist agenda is why he was chosen to kill two birds with one stone: 1: to be the man to present that bogus document, and 2. to discredit all reports (no matter how factual and well-documented) concerning Bush's conduct and record surrounding his draft-dodging days.

But any one trying to convince me that they're professional journalists and reporters should not passively submit to the fascist's efforts to control the media. They just need to wise up and learn to cover their butts before they report.
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dogtag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 06:31 PM
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11. They really need to grow some balls, but that's not likely
to happen in the current atmosphere. I'm now totally convinced that Rove was behind the AWOL papers. At first, I had some doubts as the information was pretty devastating to Shrub, but now realize that Rove loves that sort of bold, risky move. It enhances his 'genius' label.
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 05:38 PM
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2. Hannity is much too busy
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 05:38 PM
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3. When is the last time you've
seen good honest jounalism except by Sy Hersh, Keith Olbermann and a couple of others?
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hippiegranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 05:39 PM
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4. they have been told to "Stand Down."
unless enough of them break rank and go after this story, it will stay covered up.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 05:44 PM
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5. Olbermann Will Continue Reporting Tonight!
<<
Naked Promotional Announcement (Keith Olbermann)



SECAUCUS -- A quick and haplessly generic answer now to the 6,000 emails and the hundreds of phone calls.

Firstly, thank you.

Secondly, we will indeed be resuming our coverage of the voting irregularities in Ohio and Florida -- and elsewhere -- on this evening's edition of Countdown {8:00 p.m. ET}. The two scheduled guests are Jonathan Turley, an excellent professor of law at George Washington University, and MSNBC analyst and Congressional Quarterly senior columnist Craig Crawford.

For Jonathan, the questions are obvious: the process and implications of voting reviews, especially after a candidate has conceded, even after a President has been re-elected. For Craig, the questions are equally obvious: did John Kerry's concession indeed neuter mainstream media attention to the questions about voting and especially electronic voting, and what is the political state of play on the investigations and the protests.

Phase Two, in which Doris gets her oats...

Keep them coming. Email me at KOlbermann@msnbc.com
>>
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pleiku52cab Donating Member (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 05:47 PM
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6. They could not get anything on the air
without it passing thru their corporate oligarch flunkys (editors). Still can't figure why MSNBC is letting Keith run with this unless they know (a) nobody will follow his lead, and (b) his ratings are going to skyrocket from viewers like us
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futurecitizen Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 06:07 PM
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7. Timidity may play a part..
What I find most disturbing is Bev Harris' claim that this is being shut up in the media purposefully. Though I think Chomsky makes sense it seems somewhat hard to believe that all of the media outlets, large and small, would be complicit in something like this.

I don't think anyone really believes that the media today is unbiased, or at the very least that there aren't obvious conflicts of interest. What I find very difficult to believe is that the legions of media reporters, who tend to be an intense, agressively progressive crowd, would stand idly by while the foundations of democracy are compromised.

I have only more questions, and a growing certainty that nothing can be trusted. Kerry's concession has already ennervated the left (aside from you wonderful people here) and the Rather thing has made media timid. If I weren't so pollyannaish, I'd think each of the organs in which we are supposed to be able to place our trust was being impeached in a systemic fashion.

I have been thinking very seriously of choosing a small county in Florida and walking it myself, asking citizens how they voted. It seems that the only way to do something right is to do it yourself.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 06:47 PM
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13. Hi futurecitizen!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Lilli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 06:15 PM
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8. CNN was calling Ohio to fact check today
what they will do with what they find remains to be seen
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Revolutionary Mama Donating Member (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 06:20 PM
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9. The Answer is Plain as Day
You should already know that the corporate media is controlled by Republicans serving that fascist machine.

I'm willing to join others to team up and take on that corporate media. I've learned a lot about out just by 1. dissecting it since I was a kid (I'm 40 now), and 2. by working in it while also dissecting it from the inside.

I need only to join forces with those willing and able to invest talent, money, time and dedication to present something that serves more than one purpose:

1. Offers refreshing content that attracts the public's attention and positively appeals to the public,

2. Delivers news and information, as well as, other content to properly inform the public, while also deprogramming the garbage that the fascists in the other major party have planted in people's minds.

Don't bet the farm on Air America Radio, not that I knock it. Air America is for liberals, an extreme counter to Rush Lim-Blow and friends.

I know the Democrat party and some progressive alternatives have in our midst enough people willing to invest money in this type of project.

Another option is to start buying shares as big as you can afford, or form an investment group to influence the media with money.

Who does that? Carlyle Investment Group which is connected to some of the most powerful people in this country and world. But the elder George Bush was a director in that group, which should clue you in on its increased influence in the corporate media since Carlyle Group shifted from stock-piling its money in the military industrial complex, to investing in media.

We need to act fast...way before the next elections (if we have one).
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BayStateBoy Donating Member (562 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 06:46 PM
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12. Be Patient, It's Only Been One Week. Have You Contacted Them?
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Imnorepublican Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 07:03 PM
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14. bump
bump
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