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Chimpanzee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 01:15 PM
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READ ME - Keep Hope Alive!
I was thinking again (I know it's dangerous), but there are several scenarios how JFK could be inaugurated that have not been discussed. Let me just give you one:

In the next month, reporting of the voter fraud becomes widespread and the evidence, while mostly circumstantial is preponderous. Also, in the next month Bush starts showing his cards about what he really intends to do this term, and other things (Iraq) start to go very badly (even worse than now).

Many jury trials end in conviction because of a preponderence of circumstantial evidence. Isn't it possible that 18 electors, out of love for their country more than Bush switch their vote at the electoral college convention - Kerry 270 Bush 268 ??????

I would think that playing on a person's love of country over party and allowing them to feel the shame of what their party has done to our country and electoral process, etc., could have an effect in this area. An unfaithful elector under the right circumstances could be considered a patriot, right??

Am I still crazy? Should I ask my doctor to up my meds?
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pleiku52cab Donating Member (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 02:21 PM
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1. Still crazy, but hopeful - we need concrete proof
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Chimpanzee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 02:23 PM
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2. You can have 'concrete proof'
without it being good enough to overthrow the entire election, but it's the electors that matter - real people, some of which just may feel compelled to 'do the right thing'!
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 07:00 PM
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8. If you're hoping to see JFK inaugurated EVER
again, you're a bigger Conspiracy Theorist than I.

JFK is dead, buried. He died in 1963. There is NO possibility that JFK can be inaugurated ... again.

Do NOT refer to John Kerry as "JFK." He himself, I'm given to understand, does not want that. Further, it dishonors both the REAL JFK and those of us who lived through those trying times and aren't over it yet.

And perhaps worst of all -- for you, for John Kerry -- when you bring up the initials "JFK" to try to refer to Kerry, Kerry loses. Bigtime. "And you, Senator, are no John Kennedy."

Got it?

Don't do it. Ever again.

Thank you.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 07:06 PM
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Chimpanzee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 10:19 AM
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14. for some unknown reason the moderator deleted my post
Edited on Wed Nov-10-04 10:20 AM by Chimpanzee
All I was trying to say is whether you like it or not, his initials are JFK, and I have every right to call him that. I'm sorry you don't approve, but you're not my momma.

Now if the moderator objects to that I don't know what else to say - read the tone of her message and tell me who sounds the most rude.
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EPV101773 Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 07:53 PM
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11. Sign this Petition
http://www.petitiononline.com/USAVote/



Check it out guys- I think we desperately need to change the way things are done before 2008. If you have suggestions- add them in the comments section after you sign

I appreciate it
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mcg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 08:03 PM
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12. Done.
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mom-mad-about-bush Donating Member (253 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 02:57 PM
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3. Has anyone heard about this????
We Must Urge Kerry To Do Recount!
Submitted by cguttman on November 8, 2004 - 4:09pm.
What people have got to start understanding is that Kerry's concession is political (and psychological) not legal. Kerry still has until 5 days after counting the provisional ballots (which will not start until 11 days after the election) to decide to do a recount!

I'm hoping that with mounting evidence of fraud and calls/faxes and petition (I'm working on this) Kerry will ask for a recount. If not a citizen group in Ohio and perhaps the election protection people will contest and hopefully get a recount. But if Kerry just asks he gets it--he doesn't have to prove anything and he has the money for a recount. This is the best way so I think the number one thing is to encourage him to do so. Greg Palast has looked at the data and concluded that once legal provisional ballots (which will be counted no matter what )and legal spoiled ballots (in a recount) are added up, Kerry wins Ohio and the election.

We must all call/fax Kerry and urge him to take up this option
(202) 224-2742 - Phone
(202) 224-8525 - Fax

I am working on an online petition to urge Kerry to do a recount in Ohio.

There is also an Ohio group that will challenge the election if Kerry doesn't
You can contact Juliet Steward at
513.531.9017
513.807.9017
juliet067@aol.com

There is also a website http://www.recountohio.org/ that has a petition to Blackwell to recount the vote

Thanks, Cheryl (you can reach me directly at sguttman-at-nyc.rr.com, replace -at- with @)


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lizzieforkerry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 03:46 PM
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5. Thank you!
I have been trying to find out how to contact this group all day! I just called her!
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53 Jubilee Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 03:54 PM
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6. Really want to do a recount?
I know that I am new here, but I am not so sure that a recount would serve us well, especially in Pennsylvania. Philadelphia started the day with voting irregularities... but they did not support Bush.
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mcg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 08:07 PM
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13. Done, also donated.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 02:59 PM
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4. they hate us . . . they want us dead . . .
read moira's rant . . . which is probably a whole lot closer to the truth than any of the touchy feely crap about reaching out and bringing the country together . . .

http://stevegilliard.blogspot.com/2004/11/they-voted-for-this-mess.html
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Carl Brennan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 06:55 PM
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7. I just want the truth. If Bush won this election fair and square
Then he should be president.
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Imnorepublican Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 07:02 PM
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9. bump
bump
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