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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 05:49 AM
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Secretaries of State Take Issue with Detractors
From National Association of Secretaries of State:

For Immediate Release
Meredith B. Imwalle
Director of Communications
202.624.3528 direct
mimwalle@sso.org
November 8, 2004
Statement on 2004 Election

Secretaries Take Issue with Detractors, Ask Election Assistance Commission to Begin Important Work

Some detractors have suggested that this year's presidential election did not run smoothly. Certainly, our nation's
election system is not perfect. This year, we saw long lines at polling places and large numbers of provisional ballots
cast. But the administration of this November's election was successful, and in line with what Congress intended when
it passed The Help America Vote Act (HAVA).

We recognize that better allocation of resources and improved poll worker training would have helped cut down on
voters' wait time. We accept the fact that better voter education campaigns and poll worker training could have
reduced the number of provisional ballots cast. We also know that Americans with no confidence in the system would
not have waited as many as eight hours in some cases to vote, and that for the first time, no voter was turned away.

http://www.nass.org/Post%20Election%20Statement.pdf


Sounds like they need some mail, plus we should study what they have in mind for the future.
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MSgt213 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 06:04 AM
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1. Who they trying to convince us or themselves
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sepia_steel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 06:09 AM
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2. They need ot pull their heads out of their asses
and realize that it was the candidate that they stood in line for; a PERSON, a potential leader, not the damn election system.
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 01:33 AM
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9. they know what they have been a part of and they are scared ...
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 06:10 AM
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3. Millions and millions and millions of dollars...
...from us to them, via Congress, and from Diebold, ES&S, Triad, et al, to them, via wining and dining, to buy us...

...Bush Election Fraud II.

Bad bargain.

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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 06:37 AM
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4. My guess is that this was worked up...
... by the lobbyists hired by the manufacturers and funneled through The Election Center for distribution by the NASS.

I'll tell you what they have in mind for the future--lots more touchscreens and no paper trails.

But, that's bullshit about no voter turned away. There were multiple registration frauds in state after state, and some were refused provisional ballots, and then those provisional ballots were denied, often in wholesale fashion because of arbitrary rules about jurisdiction. There were multiple recounts in major races in at least one state, and recounts in several others, and many procedural attempts to avoid or deny recounts. There were hundreds of thousands of voters harassed at the polls and multiple attempts to suppress voting before and on election day in dozens of states.

If the people running elections think that was free and fair, that's the definition of cognitive dissonance.

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AirAmFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 11:07 AM
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5. "No one was turned away"? Literally false, but millions also had their
Edited on Sun Jan-09-05 11:07 AM by AirAmFan
provisional ballots thrown out sometime after they left the polls. WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE between being turned away from the polls and being allowed to cast a ballot that then is not counted? You might call the first "feel-bad disfranchisement", and the latter "feel-good disfranchisement". But both are disfranchisement!
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liam97 Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 11:10 AM
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6. This election assistance commission is a hoax!!!!
Please check out Nashuaa Advocate - I think this hoax needs to be called now
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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 01:30 AM
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8. How do we expose it?
I am on my way to look at the Nashua Advocate.
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 11:16 AM
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7. They need to finish the sentence:
"and large numbers of provisional ballots
cast" BUT NOT COUNTED!!!.
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