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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 02:44 PM
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Looks like they're voting it down; profiles in courage, indeed.
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Emboldened Chimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 02:47 PM
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1. Who is voting down what?
Details, please.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 02:48 PM
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2. Indeed, details please!
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Your thoughts on the electoral challenge?
http://www.livejournal.com/community/thought_express/3809.html
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 02:48 PM
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3. I think he means in the Senate
they are voting

House is still debating
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 02:50 PM
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5. The only "yea" I've heard so far is from Boxer. It
doesn't look promising at all, but at least it's now out there.
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jackster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 02:50 PM
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4. well of course
what did you expect - the rethugs would never let this pass

BUT WE WERE HEARD

WE STOOD UP

Okay - we still need to let our leaders know that we were watching and will continue to

we can vote them out if they don't stand up for us
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 02:52 PM
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7. I expected our Democratic leaders to do the right thing, not just spin
I know that is just too much to ask. :puke:
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 02:56 PM
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11. They Stood Up and that was only a pipe dream



two days ago.

Would I have wanted more, of course.

Did they take a massive step forward in opening the debate? Yes!

Did more speak for us than we thought would xpeak? YES!!!!!
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 03:01 PM
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16. LOL
"We can vote them out if they don't stand up for us." I think BBV will take care of that, "if they don't stand up for us" or not. Too bad they don't realize that.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 02:51 PM
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6. Yep, lots of mealy-mouthed
platitudes about how we must "take a look at" the issue of election reform coupled with statements that the chimp clearly won the election. Who the hell represents the disenfranchised, defrauded voters? Where's the outrage?
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 02:54 PM
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9. Agreed to a point
I just dont know how to feel about this, on one hand Im happy that something was done, but another part of me says that this was done just to placate the masses of Dems who are upset or disenfranchised, keeping them happy and in the camp till the next election.

Im glad this is getting out, but with the MSM and the GOP controlling the entire government, I just dont think that anything of substence will come of this and we will be back here again in another 2 and 4 years, respectively.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 03:46 PM
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19. Hi TornadoTN!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Terre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 02:53 PM
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8. Didn't I hear Levin "aye"? n/t
or maybe my ears are playing tricks on me?
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loritooker Donating Member (376 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 02:55 PM
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10. I heard a yea from Levin also
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errorbells Donating Member (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 02:57 PM
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12. the senate is missing and
computer illiterate.
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 02:57 PM
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13. Did you expect otherwsie?
I will never undertand the people that thought this will end with Kerry in the White House.

Having said that, today was impressive. The Dems properly framed this debate and definitely took a step in the right direction. Of course, it's meaningless if we are operating under the exact same system in 2006.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 02:58 PM
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14. Even if they knew it was hopeless
it would not have hurt them to put their names on record.
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 03:06 PM
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17. Waiting for the future fraud to stick 2 / 3 nds in each house next round
Modus operandi

I say they will have another set up with black bags, some kind of big or bigger scare shake-up similar to 9/11 in the next 10 to 18 months to make it possible for the fraud
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 02:59 PM
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15. You expected something different?
I'm still amazed they got Boxer and there was a debate at all. Everyone write and thank her.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 03:19 PM
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18. What did you expect? A full on mutiny?
As far as I'm concerned...standing up to these thugs is step #1! Baby steps will get us there! Everything in this country is not all or nothing! Not all Black and White...there IS GRAY, as well. Watch out...that's the way THEY think!
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Firenze777 Donating Member (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 04:24 PM
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20. A dud in my opinion
No average citizen watching this would be persuaded in the least....I am not discounting the passion and hard work by the Black Caucus or Boxer's courage, but what was needed were blown up pictures of the brothers running ES&S and Diebolt, or those charts showing the difference of exit polls and 'adjusted' polls, or any verbal presentation approaching the energy and clarity that Randi Rhondes demonstrates regarding the fraud that took place. Democracy and Civil Rights were mortally wounded today.
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