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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 01:54 PM
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We have to focus on who is good/bad=Please Rate them here
Edited on Thu Jan-06-05 02:18 PM by Gloria
1.Repugs; 2.Dems who don't think there is a voting problem or if there is one,it's minor; and 3) and Dems who think Bush won but there are REAL problems. This last category is probably the best we will get today. Category 2 are the REAL LOSER DEMS!!!!


Yes, I know voting to certify is BAD....but the question is if the really go after the voting and talk about the irregularities at this point (3) or if they don't even think there is a problem (2).

Reality is that they're all going to certify (I think)....

Sanders would be in the last category; Dayton in the second

DeWine, Pryce--obviously, Repug trash

That's the only way to target the ones that MUST GO, from both sides....
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roenyc Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 01:55 PM
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1. isnt dayton the 9/11 guy??
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 03:33 PM
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39. He pointed out that NORAD lied, yes
he also said today that the administration had to stop lying about the Iraq war.

So he has done some good things.

But his remarks today are just inexcusable, IMHO.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 12:25 AM
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44. That's Byron DORGAN of North Dakota
Although he was quite absent in today's proceedings he's usually a pretty awesome senator.
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 01:57 PM
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2. Stabenow D rated good so far
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 02:01 PM
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3. Kennedy D category 3; Wyden cat. 3
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BarbinMD Donating Member (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 02:02 PM
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4. Durbin is a 2...
...Wyden up now.
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 02:04 PM
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5. Pelosi, in cat. 3 but here attitude remains a bit
to "nicey nice" toward accepting Bush. However, she asked for respect and is doing fine....the vote is "not frivolous."
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Verve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 03:24 PM
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35. Our calls must have sunk in a little bit! n/t
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 02:04 PM
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6. Sanders 3, Dayton 2
update
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 02:50 PM
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26. Sanders is a socilaist Indy, though. :^)
-------------------------------------------------------------
Your thoughts on the electoral challenge?
http://www.livejournal.com/community/thought_express/3809.html
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 02:10 PM
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7. Lautenberg D cat. 3
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 02:12 PM
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8. Mel Watt, D-NC cat 3? please confirm
Edited on Thu Jan-06-05 02:13 PM by Gloria
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 02:15 PM
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9. Pelosi will certify - bad. Lautenberg will certify - bad
All those who vote to certify don't get it.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 02:18 PM
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11. I don't agree
I just don't think they have the hard evidence they need.
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 02:16 PM
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10. Hillary....cat 3?
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 02:18 PM
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12. Reid....3
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 02:21 PM
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13. Harkin - 3
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 02:22 PM
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14. Harkin ?? asking for voting action, questioning DeWine
(not about Bush winning, it's about the voting)...I give him a 3 after a rocky start (won't change the election crap)
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 02:28 PM
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15. Obama.....copping a 3 goes so far to say that Bush got more votes,
though. MMMM
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 02:32 PM
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16. Barbara Lee.....3?
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 02:32 PM
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17. Kucinich 3?
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 02:33 PM
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18. Candace Miller, R--MI===111111...She's another arrogant
Edited on Thu Jan-06-05 02:33 PM by Gloria
piece of work....Hayward,,, the whole lot of them....
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winsflorida Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 02:35 PM
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19. I think Candace Miller
is very good. Nancy Pelosi sounded drunk. Conyers was OK. Obama backs Bush. All in all, I think the Republicans will come out of this unscathed!
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 02:38 PM
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20. Yes, she's arrogant...but effective. All the Repugs seem to
be on the same points and OUTRAGED and "sad" etc. etc. they've got "crocodile tears" down pat.
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 02:39 PM
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21. Nadler, NY D 3
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 02:40 PM
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22. Elija Cummings D-GA 3 and answering Repug crap about
"taking the election from Bush" and focusing on the vote.
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 02:41 PM
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23. Cynthia McKinney D-GA....3 and VERY STRONG also
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 02:42 PM
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24. Lacy Clay-D-MS 3 Strong
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 02:49 PM
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25. Jesse Jackson Jr,.....3 Strong.....quoting the Consitution, that
Edited on Thu Jan-06-05 02:50 PM by Gloria
voting is state right, not a citizenship right (right to vote not in Constitution)...cites different rules for felons to vote in different states...

Really excellent speech.
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 02:59 PM
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27. Pallone inserted objections to certification 2?
Edited on Thu Jan-06-05 03:04 PM by Gloria
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 03:00 PM
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28. Lynn Woolsey, D-CA--speaking well. 3
"noto about politics at all, it's about citizens and their rights."
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 03:02 PM
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29. Major Owens, D-NY Practice what we preach ...about democracy
....Iraq...want to divide that up without standards? Our setup shouldn't be used as an excuse for abuse.....should be made federal crimes..
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 03:03 PM
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30. Sheila Jackson Lee---2--a "sacred debate" not frivolous talks about
Edited on Thu Jan-06-05 03:05 PM by Gloria
Ukraine
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 03:12 PM
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31. Maxine Waters D-CA Ohio has failed to run a failed election...2
objection
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 03:22 PM
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32. Carolyn Kilpatrick D-MI a felony to touch vote watchers...2
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 03:23 PM
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33. Jan Schakowsky-D IL...2..objecting....
not sufficient to say "get over it"..say it's sour grapes...she's great!!
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 03:24 PM
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34. Great. Absolutist DU Santa Clauses unite! (nt)
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 03:25 PM
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36. Here was my take on the Senate side of things.
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 03:30 PM
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37. You're either with us or against us
Who does that remind me of?
Let's focus on what we can do to change things, not on who we hate or like.
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 03:31 PM
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38. Danny Davis D-IL 2 he ROCKS! quoting Thomas Paine in
OBJECTING
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 03:34 PM
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40.  Del. Eleanor Holmes Norton, D-DC (who can't vote!)
eloquent....did not register any objection...because she has no vote
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 03:36 PM
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41. Bobby Pratt D-VA.....2 objection, I think
good man
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 03:38 PM
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42. Man just changed vote to support challenge, then yielded to Tubbs Jones
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 03:41 PM
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43. Conyers of course
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 12:26 AM
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45. DEMS GOOD, RADICAL RIGHTWING BAD, END OF DISCUSSION.
NGU.


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FreepFryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 12:28 AM
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46. zactly. OP poster - now do another one of the GOP members of congress.
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