OFFICIAL HOUSE DEBATE THREAD

[shiina]

[CottonBear]

1. Tubbs Jones speaking now! 1:31 pm.

You go girl!

[SillyGoose]

3. Awesome Lady...

a true patriot

[Pirate Smile]

2. Damn, they are both speaking at the same time on the two different

C-spans.

[CottonBear]

6. I know. I'm at work. I didn't set VCR's at home.

Oh shit what to watch? Can one stream archived c-span Senate deabate later today?

[housewolf]

8. They will probably re-play both of them later

They've been replaying the other sessions this week. This is important and unusual so I'm sure it will be on several times over the next few days.

[shiina]

4. Tubbs speaking

I'm duty bound to follow the law
On behalf of the millions of Americans who believe in democracy and the right to vote
This objection is necessary to review and remedy the most precious process in our democracy
Not to overturn election or cause turmoil

I am convinced that we must have a formal debate on the electoral process
Serious allegations in 2 lawsuits in Ohio that should be resolved before votes are certified

Voting irregularities were an issue after 2000, but they weren't able to bring it up in the House, so they are challenging now

[tridim]

5. So is the debate two hours exactly

or is that just the suggested time. Can the Pukes shut this down after 2 hours?

[shiina]

7. Some of Tubbs' points

Voters were turned away
Long lines in her own county
More than 1/2 of the complaints about long lines from

No working machines, polling place shut down
Rejection rates avg 37% in African American wards as high as 51%
Almost 3000 were never entered
Addressed never updated or entered

[Pacifist Patriot]

9. Rep. Deborah Pryce

is an idiot.

[cags]

11. Stop being nice,

She's an *ing piece of *

[pgh_dem]

18. Oh Dear! They've been 'bogged down'!

For all of TEN MINUTES!
This might go on for TWO HOURS!
By GOD, will we never be done with this quagmire!
:nopity:

[Marnieworld]

12. and a liar

extremists in the democratic party? Ok let's just ignore all of the stories and evidence. Democrats are just whining. Boy I hate this woman.

[CottonBear]

19. "Their obsession is a front for lack of ideas."

She just said this.

[me b zola]

85. I have many ideas for her

I believe I will make it my business to share them with her...for the remainder of her time in office.

[Pepper32]

21. Good she finally shut the hell up! eom

[Maat]

14. Thank you, Pacifist Patriot!

I agree.

[kimchi]

15. Yeah, the whole thing is "frivolous" to her.

Obviously allowing blacks and dems voting rights is just a silly game. Let them eat cake! I had to leave the TV as I wanted to throw something at that evil fascimile of a human.

on ed: removed "bitch" as I wear that term proudly some days

[CottonBear]

10. Snarky R-Ohio wpman Pryce speaking now!

Totally just dissed Kerry and all Democrats. "Their obsession is a front for lack of ideas." ARGGGHHHH!!! This is painful. At least it's on TV.

[Gloria]

13. Yeah, Pryce names Moore....fantasy....these people are arrogant

pricks!!!!!

[Maat]

20. Why isn't Al Franken covering this, DUers?

[kuozzman]

16. How can she say what she is saying?

[Wind Dancer]

44. She is saying it because she is a typical Repuke!

[Patsy Stone]

17. Wow! A female "Douchebag of Liberty"

What is this crap about only the Dems wanting to count and re-count? What happened to the GOP in Washington State? Didn't she get that memo?

Biatch...

[CottonBear]

23. LOL! funny comment n/t

[shiina]

22. Pryce (r) - in response to Tubbs

There won't be enough votes to change result.
Kerry conceeds.
Debate it frivolous and bogging us down.
They will claim there was fraud.
Their intention is to undermine the confidence in the electoral process itself.
Parties primary strategy to divide
To cover for a lack of ideas

Republicans - health care costs, jobs, schools...
Democrats only want to gripe about counts, counts, recounts

Moore...conpiracy theories...fantasy authors should confront the facts
Ohio recount already done, confirmed Bush won Ohio, comfortable margin

Every editorial section of every newspaper has called this a sham

Majority of Ohioans are not contesting election

Baseless and meritless tactics

Partisan war

[rodeodance]

28. roll call vote to follow speeches-

[shiina]

24. Hobson (R) Ohio

Baseless...listing people who have NOT challenged

[shiina]

34. CONYERS

Asks to include report. No objection. Asks for unanimous consent.

Not as partisans, we want to do our duty under constitution

Inner-city voter waited 10 hours in rain, while suburban voters in same county had no wait.
Hispanic voter was directed to wrong voting table, had ballot thrown out because of SoS decision not to accept wrong precints
Voter refused provisional ballot when absentee didn't come because of partisan decision
Registration not accepted because of paper wait
Unlawful challenge

Not a single election official in Ohio has given us ANY EXPLANATION of the many irregularities...

vote switching, machine tampering, crazily-high voter turnouts.

Yields to Sanders

[shiina]

40. SANDERS

Bush won Ohio. But no American should have to wait to cast a vote.
Americans are worried about lack of paper trail in the event of a recount.
Demand that the federal government to move forward to all Americans can feel secure that their votes are counted and voters are treated with respect

[shiina]

52. BLUNT - minority whip

I assume Sanders will vote with me to accept Ohio votes
Electoral problems should be handled at a different time

We were all elected...
We shouldn't cast doubt on all the work voting people have done
No Republican did anything by themselves on election day

They're saying we all did what we should have done
...we tested machines, counted ballots,

Waste of time to challenge with 118,000-vote different

These discussions should be done in Ohio, not in a federal body

Our job is to count electoral votes, move on, and do work that can only be done here

When we attack the process, we cast doubt on the fabric of democracy. People need to have confidence, they don't need to think it's perfect.

Move on...
Honor election process...

Yield to Keller

GET OVER IT. Moveon.org...Michael Moore

[kimchi]

61. Thanks, shiina for the quick transcripts!

I know the cuberats appreciate it too.

[Patsy Stone]

25. Outrageous I say! (Hobson)

How dare you ask that the votes be counted? Are you insane? Cleary Michael Moore has influenced you...

OMG -- Hypocrites.

[pgh_dem]

26. GO CONYERS GO!

YEAH!
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[SW FL Dem]

30. Amen - Thank you John Conyers!! n/t

[nadinbrzezinski]

27. my god hastert looks really unhappy

and good Conyers is not making this about party but about democracy...

Folks lets see hwo the stenography corps covers this

[rodeodance]

33. Hassett is always unhappy unless he is in charge and at the moment he

does not like what is going on (putting up with it only)

[Pepper32]

29. Conyers speaking now.... YES!

[rodeodance]

31. was listening to Senate on other c=span for a bit--they seem to

only have a few speakers and are asking their members to get to the floor for a vote.

[Catherine Vincent]

32. That republican woman was spewing that counted and recounted

crap that the republican shills yelled so well in 2000.

[rodeodance]

36. I-Vermont---demand that Fed gov feel secure that their votes are secure

and voters treated with respect! Good!!!!

[CottonBear]

42. Sanders-Vermont (I?) discussing paper trail/ballots n/t

[CottonBear]

50. "Not role of feds to conduct (fair) elections."

"It's Ohio's problem" This is Blunt. What an ass. Talking about the "greatest democracy in the world." Greatest my butt.

[nickshepDEM]

35. BERNIE SANDERS IS KICKING ASS.... no F'in topic

[SharonRB]

38. Go Sanders!

[CrownPrinceBandar]

39. Go Bernie!

[rodeodance]

43. Maj. whip Blunt----what a stupid person--says this is not the time for

casting down what election officials do. Changing the subject!! and stupid people will believe him!!!

[Darkhawk32]

45. Can't stand the man... now his son is Governor of MO and was SOS

during the election!

:mad:

[Carolab]

46. Well his son MATT rigged his own election

as SOS in Missouri...so what would you expect from the father?

[RayOfHope]

168. Don't forget--not only SOS

but chairman of the MO * campaign. Blech.

[roenyc]

49. looks like a turtle

they all lie like a rug. cant stand it.

[CornField]

37. You go, Bernie Sanders!

That was excellent... truly excellent.

[RadiDem]

41. Bernie Sanders is DA MAN !

Good goin !

[rodeodance]

47. Maj. Blunt says this discussion should be OHIO -not in Congress--slime-

ball!!!! wants to get on with our business, Thinks it is only a state issue. Attaching the process is attaching the fabric of democracy!! so he says!!!!! what a bunch of crapo!!!!

[HR_Pufnstuf]

48. Bernie Sanders - VT

"No American should wait 4 hours to vote"

"Need paper trail in case of recount"

"All voters treated with respect and dignity"

not exact, but close.

[rodeodance]

51. Get over it -Florida person -who also slandered Micheal Moore!!

[Occulus]

53. "Get over it"- some (R) dunghill from FL

[rodeodance]

58. Black Rep was rudely interupted by chatter on the floor=D. NC Wattt

wants processes to ensure vote regardless of income.

[rodeodance]

59. Watt says this should not be labeled as frivulous!!!

[CottonBear]

54. Blunt said: This is not the proper time or place...

Well, when the fuck is the propert ime and place for democracy and fair elections? Shit.

[CottonBear]

63. It's mostly Minority & Women Reps protesting.

The old, repub white guys don't look so good to the rest of the world.

[CottonBear]

65. Yay! Another woman (D-CA) speaking out! n/t

[CottonBear]

66. Yay! Another woman (D-CA) speaking out! n/t

[berni_mccoy]

55. Is it me, or is Dick actually shutting down...

some abrasive Repugs?

[Greylyn58]

56. Yeah Mel Watt...

Go Mel...NC is proud of you!!

Well I am!

[Smoochie]

Mel Watt Rocks!!! slapping down deborah pryce

for calling this frivolous!

[Occulus]

57. Were some people just trying to walk out on the debate?

The House was just called to order, members were told to sit.

[rodeodance]

60. making a frucus so as not to hear Watt who is going great!

[rodeodance]

79. Bob Ney R. OHIO--it is a shame we have to be here--"sore losers"

"So called evidence"----in OHIO---per Ney-
He is trying his darnest to take the heat off of Blackwell

[HR_Pufnstuf]

62. Mel Watt D-NC

"equal access, convenience of voting, must not be a function or race, location or status"

[shiina]

64. WATT

America falls short...?

Calling for rights of people to vote in Iraq and Afghanistan, but not willing to do whatever it takes...

(People are called to order)

We need to do whatever it takes
Access, quality of voting machines...should not depend on race, etc.
It's not frivolous when people are not allowed to vote
Not about whether Bush won
Nothing more basic than the right to vote
If this is frivolous, then we're not going to move forward to do anything about this

Need to improve HAVA, took 1st step two years ago.

Yield to Napolitano
Latinos have fought and died for America, but feel disenfranchised
Democracy depends on partipation and trust in elections

[Truthbeknown]

67. This is Great!!!

I've got picture in picture with sound on both and 2 vcr's running,taping both sessions.What a great historic day!!!

[HR_Pufnstuf]

Nancy Pelosi D-CA

"about election reform, not election result"

"the principle of one person-one vote is sacred"

"dis-en-fran-chise-ment"

"waiting up to 10 hours in some locations"

"patchwork use of provisional ballots"

"malfunctioning machines"

"need universal standard for provisional ballots"

"to my colleagues, don't talk about a conpiracy"




*apx quotes for tv-impaired

[me b zola]

68. So much flaming orange!

I am so proud.

Oh, idiot Ney, this is a sad day for him. Yeah, demanding Democracy must make him sad.

[Catchawave]

69. Ney's an a*hole.....

he hasn't been paying attention....

[kath]

75. HUGE asshole - sheesh

[Mistwell]

70. Why is one consistent theme: "Bush Won"?

Honest question, as I am at work and can only watch inconsistently. What I have seen, however, follows this pattern.

Why is it that, on BOTH sides of the aisle, a consistent theme seems to be everyone saying near the beginning of their speech something along the lines of "Bush won, but there were irregularities that we should address in the future"?

Has ANYONE made the claim that Bush did NOT win? Has a single house member stood up and said "We think the evidence shows that Kerry actually got more votes than Bush"?

[Smoochie]

95. not so far ... it'll have to be done by cliff arnebeck and

the alliance for democracy over the next few weeks/ months. but only if the evidence hasn't already been destroyed ...

[nadinbrzezinski]

71. Ney you are an ass

dismiss as you may, reality is that this is putting a kibush on our status as the greatest democracy in the world... and you boys created this environment

[ohio_liberal]

76. He doesn't know shit

He never represented a minority constituency

[ohio_liberal]

72. Bob Ney is a whore

:puke:

[Pepper32]

73. Bob Ney is speaking, I mean lying now.... eom

[Stephanie]

78. we shd have had a "conspiracy theorists" drinking game

we'd all be bombed by now

[CottonBear]

74. Ney (R-OH) is repeating "sore loser" meme.

"alleged" problems. Oh I see, the problems are not real.

[CottonBear]

80. Ney is saying we can't accept..* as Pres.

Now some guy is talking about the recount. There was no statewide recount. More lies.

[loritooker]

77. Somebody give Bob Ney a little cheese with his whine.

[roenyc]

81. kerry said to go away blah blah blah

i dont like these people!!! used to be back in the day! yeah well used to be karl rove just cheated in high school.

[rodeodance]

87. some Repugs are angry!!! not that I care!! Polosi said to be respectful

of each other. Ney should be ashamed of himself!!!1

[rodeodance]

82. Ney--it (this objection)--"debases" us-tell that to the people whose

votes were tossed out!!!! What a complete AS@@@@

[demo dutch]

83. At least Senators are talking ELECTION REFORM!!!

[shiina]

84. Ney

Ah, got kicked off...

Uh, frivolous
No such thing as a perfect election
Mistakes were made (good lord)
But did not effect election results

Long waits - SoS blamed for everything - run by county election boards run by 2 R and 2 D
Franklin board chairman - long lines caused by high voter turnout, many propositions...not lack of machines
said chairman attacked by conspiracy theorists

People cannot accept Bush won, too hurt by it...no matter what the facts

This is a sad day, it debases us.

Yields to -
We had a recount
In Lake county not one ballot changed
Provisional ballots tossed because voters not residents of Ohio
Net swing - 23 votes for Kerry
We should honor electoral workers

[roenyc]

89. Thanks - spare me - for nancy

[roenyc]

86. oh dear god shoot me now!

how much more must i take of this. where are our people?

[rodeodance]

90. I think Polosi is good fine now (next up is a Repug--then take a break)

[CottonBear]

88. Pelosi on now (2:03 pm)

"Let's be respectful and discuss real problems of our election system...and our (dem) aggrieved constituents."

"This is the right (only) time to discuss this before the nation."

[rodeodance]

93. repugs do not get it-if officials had done their job well, we would not

have this problem now. but they do it-they just want it to go away!

[nadinbrzezinski]

91. Pelosi is up

She is going after the system and the need for election reform... this is not playng well with the repukes why they are trying to shut it down.

The Credit Card Party cannot win if they don't cheat, and true electoral reform is not going to help the credit card party.

Why we are dangerous folks.

Oh and they are being realistc, there is no way this can be overturned, but the reality is... that Bush's Legitimacy has been questioned as well, even if this is not the overt intent... and the Cheap Labor Conservs know that.

[Stephanie]

92. Pelosi - transcribed

This is not frivolous. this debate is fundamental to our democracy. standing up for 1) right to vote is sacred, 2) officials have to stand up for constituents, 3) rule of law. This is not about objecting to Bush election. Today's challenge is not to overturn results. It is instead to discuss real problems with electoral system. About election reform, not election results. Only oppty to have this debate while country is listening. We have responsiblity. Right to vote is foundation of our democracy. A discussion of that right shd not be conisdered frivolous. Other rights are illusory if the right to vote is undermined. The principle of one person one vote is sacred in our country and we must do everything to uphold it. Yet still legitimate concerns over integrity of our elections.

[CottonBear]

97. A voice of reason and intelligence!

"you can deny it all you want but it is a fact of public record and it is wrong...unequal treatment under the law." GO NANCY!

[rodeodance]

"you can deny all you want" pointing to Repugs--says Polosi--in talking

of long waits in poor districts and lots of machines in rich districts.
Also talked of lack of paper trails.

[Stephanie]

99. more rough transcript

I know this issue is not just about counting votes, but what happens before, during and after election. In all three phases problems in OH and elsewhere. Absentee ballots that didn't arrive, voting rolls, provisional ballots, paper requirements, led to disenfranchisement. During election, not enough voting machines in poor & minority areas. This is a fact. Led to appaling waiting times up to ten hours. You can deny it all you want but it is a matter of public record that this is a fact and that this is wrong. Vote suppression thru intimidation. Unequal treatment under the law undermining the principal of one person one vote and equal protection. After election, constantly shifting vote tallies in OH and malfunctioning electronic mahcines that may not have paper receipts. We have responsiblity to improve our elect system. We cannot be here four years from now debating this again. Must pass legistalation to improve HAVA, including paper trails.

[Stephanie]

107. more

so my colleagues please don't talk about htis about a conspiracy theory. it's not about that. It's about the Consitution of hte United States. Bush & Cheney are P & VP - it has never been about that. It's always been about fundamental electoral process. America beacon of democracy. We must never forget power of our own example. So let's respect this debate today for what it is -a bout ensuring foundation of our own democracy and sending message to world that we are truly protective of our constitution. I urge colleagues to join together in bipartisan way for electoral reform so four years from now we don't have to have this debate.

[Catchawave]

94. Who's side is Pelosi on again?

[Occulus]

96. The side of a fair and open public election where every vote counts. nt

[derby378]

98. She can't even pronounce "disenfranchisement"

:wtf:

[ohio_liberal]

101. Took her a few tries

:(

[rodeodance]

103. give her a break-she is on our side and is trying!!

[seriousstan]

104. en fran chise dis em fram dis in fran chise ment

[Pepper32]

109. She was nervous, I bet most of them are.... eom

[Webster Green]

100. Are you watching the same debate as I am?

She's doing great. I'm going to have to call her and apologize for my call yeasterday.

[derby378]

106. She's capitulating to Bush/Cheney

Sorry, but she's a wimp. She'd rather live on her knees than die on her feet.

[Webster Green]

112. Tuh!

Bullfeathers!

[caligirl]

102. She is from my state although i was ticked ashe did not support Dean

She is a strong leader.

[rodeodance]

108. urges colleagues to have election reform.

[nadinbrzezinski]

117. The side of open and fair elections

that is who she is on... the vote is the basis of all other rights

[shiina]

105. PELOSI

Not frivolous, fundamental to democracy

Right to vote is sacred
Officials have duty to represent the people
Rule of law is the hallmark of our nation

No question that Bush won

This is their only opportunity to have a debate while the country is listening
They are standing up for their constituents
Supreme Court - no right is more precious than the right to vote, other rights are illusory if the right to vote is undermined
Legitimate concerns about the integrity of the election
Resonsibility to remove obstacles to voting

3 phases of election - problems in all 3

BEFORE - Absentee ballots didn't arrive
Registration problems
SoS made questionable decisions

DURING - not enough voting machines A FACT
long waits
intimidation and misinformation
unequal treatment - regarding provisional ballots

AFTER - shifting vote tallies

We can't be here in 2008 having the same discussion
Calls for :
*Universal standard for provisional ballots
*Strong verification proceedures
*Paper trail

Reauthorize HAVA and improve it

Not about conspiracies, it's about the constitution

[rodeodance]

110. nice summary--thanks much

[derby378]

111. "No question that Bush won?"

Then why waste taxpayer money on this whole debacle, Nancy?

She needs to step aside and let some real Democrats do the hard work for a change.

[rodeodance]

epub. Rep. from NY=="move on"

[sd_UDO]

114. Bush won't win in our elections!!!

http://www.angelfire.com/sd2/105/udo/

http://www.angelfire.com/sd2/105/udo/

[derby378]

113. Tom Reynolds: "The American people have spoken"

Except where prohibited by law, as in Ohio.

[rodeodance]

118. D. OHIO----Sherod Brown-Blackwell "failed" to serve the people of OHIO!!

[shiina]

115. REYNOLDS

House did bi-partisan work on HAVA
Chairman has scheduled hearings ... (what's this?)

Captain Onada - legally dead for 15 years still fighting war...
this same thing happening in halls on Congress

Bush -　more votes than any candidate in history
Ohio votes certified
wild-eyed conspiracy theories

Can't accept words of own candidate "W3 can't win"
Stop trying to change the past, Bush has been duly elected
"Move on"

Yield - to who?

recount requested by "the other party" is done
Our system works
Not plausible that system was rigged with 88 separate bi-partisan boards

[Pepper32]

116. Sherrod Brown speaking now eom

[rodeodance]

120. really laid into SOS--Blackwell!! saddened that Repugs not joining to fix

the problems as they should be concern for both parties!! Good for thim

[rodeodance]

124. OHIO Dem- Nancy Kaptur---blashing Blackwell --Great

Standards not in place.
tried to force officials to buy machines that his own report showed to be flowed. Blackwell did everything possible to frustrate peopple

[derby378]

126. I gotta give Sherrod props for that

Well said.

[derby378]

119. Now it's Sherrod Brown's turn to wimp out

"I don't question the results..."

THEN QUITE WASTING OUR FRIGGIN' TIME!!

[alexisfree]

121. hillary

"India had a democratic election system"

[SPDBoston]

125. this is a joke

This is not about overturning the votes in Ohio. If I hear one more Democrat say "Bush Won", I'm going to start breaking things.

[HR_Pufnstuf]

122. Sherrod Brown D-OH

"our secretary of state failed on two counts"

"defending the right to vote should concern both republicans and democrats"





*apx quotes for tv-impaired

[Pepper32]

123. Marcy Kaptur speaking. She sounds fired up! eom

[buzzard]

127. One of the best so far. n/t

[rodeodance]

129. Kaptur-demands full investigation!! Go Kuptur Go

[derby378]

130. And now Marcy just wimped out

Stop capitulating or get off the podium, Marcy...

[HR_Pufnstuf]

128. Marcy Kaptur D-OH

"blackwell specified paper-weight standards that his own office could not follow"

"100,000's of ohioans have questions about the election"



*apx quotes for tv-impaired

[rodeodance]

134. Republican Hayworth AZ --we should accept the majority of the people but

rights of the majority should be protected.
says they -Dems-accept the vertict of the election.
This debate plants seed of doubt in the electoral process!!

[rodeodance]

140. say House is disrupted by the DEMS--they want to plant doubt--"sour -

grapes" is what he called us!!!!!

[caligirl]

144. tom Harkin take a hard look at the voter problems we did

not do enough, 10 hour lines is like throwing acid on America. An inequitable distribution of machines. Sites numbers of machines in precincts decided on by Blackwell. SOS minimized the ability of Oh. to vote. Paper weight decision. Voter suppression efforts. Software kept secret has become the norm. Need to provide access to software to both sides.

[caligirl]

159. OBAMA SPEAKS says he did not think he would be doing this but

Margarete lewis born in1898 when linchings were common place and Africans could not vote. He says he was influenced by her

[shiina]

131. BROWN (Ohio)

I stood in line for hours with voters trying to cast ballots
Heard from dozens of voters who lost their right to vote

SoS functions :
assure everyone is confident vote was counted
encourage everyone to vote

Blackwell fails
count riddled with unecessary problems

panic calls all day about machines broken
registrations denied, votes not allowed

Ohioans should never have to wait
It's not just about Ohio
Sad no Republicans are acknowledging problems

Yield - KAPTUR (Ohio Rep)

Ohio shows HAVA fell short of goal
SoS repeatedly took actions to make it difficult for people to vote and have vote counted
Standards still not in place

SoS tried to force boards to buy machines that his own report showed were flawed
In disagreement about machine standards
Enforced paper weight standards his own office couldn't meet
People denied provisional ballots until court ruling at 3pm on election day (who didn't recieve absentee)

People have questions about Ohio
Make elections work for 2006

[shiina]

132. tired...anyone wanna take over?

[Verve]

141. How bad is it in here? Only Dems are talking in the senate so I thought

I'd peek over here a bit until it gets bad again. Then back to the senate!

[derby378]

133. Hayworth: Talkin' loud, ain't sayin' nothin'

The ass is connected to the brainstem...

[SPDBoston]

150. hmm

Hayworth is the best Republican I've seen speak today. At least he doesn't use notes.

He looks like someone in the middle of a midlife crisis. I bet he has a red convertible

[nadinbrzezinski]

135. My my consent of the governed

You are right, and doubt about the electoral process, Hayworth they are there already... maybe we need to give you a fucking clue

[elaineb]

157. Yeah right, "consent of the governed"

Seems like there were an awful lot of "the governed" who either weren't allowed to vote or whose votes were NOT COUNTED.

But traitors to the Republic, like Hayworth, don't want to be concerned about those particular "governed".

[Greylyn58]

136. Hayworth is speaking AGAIN

This guy is a real wiener!! He must think a lot of himself...throwing around large words and flinging his arms as he speaks.

SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP YOU PUTZ!!!

[aWaKeNoW]

137. Geez he sounds like a damn preacher up there

[derby378]

138. Hayworth: Dems planting "the insidious seeds of doubt"

Ooooooooooooo...scaaaaary...

[derby378]

142. "It's called sour grapes"

And calls for a "revote" in the Washington gov. election aren't?

[imenja]

152. ain't that something

to bad there weren't more Washington like results. They might have to confront the mess that constitutes our voting system.

[CottonBear]

146. Hayworth: "Sour grapes...blogging doesn't make it so."

Damn, he just dissed us over here on the internets!

[Pepper32]

151. Why are all the repukes quoting Kerry?

It's sickening

[mycatforpresident]

139. Hayworth (R) AZ

"Grumbling, lack of acceptance, sour grapes, blah blah blah." jerk

[rodeodance]

145. why is he saying this is not the time for debate-our constitution gives us

time for this debate. specifically. jerk!!!

[Occulus]

148. What's with the gameshow host voice and the preacher script?

I mean, come on...

[mycatforpresident]

158. He'd be much better at hosting "Family Feud"

[imenja]

143. Republicans Don't Listen!

Wouldn't it occur to them to rethink their pre-prepared statements when the Dem House members have stated over and over again that they are objecting to process rather than outcome? The Republicans, in general, have refused to address that issue and instead keep calling this sour grapes. Are they incapable to speaking on their feet or can they only read statements written by their aides?

[demo dutch]

153. I am afraid that the MSM will only pick up those fragments of

the debate!

[LizW]

156. Exactly!

They can't deviate from the talking points and they look like idiots!

[LizW]

147. Hayworth of AZ: Not the time

Give me a break. If not now, when?

AAARRRGGEH! He just said it: "sour grapes"

What a numbskull. He might as well come right out and say that he doesn't give a shit if people were disenfranchised.

What a jackass.

[rodeodance]

Hayworth--"publicity stunt" my god!!! he needs get educated!

[demo dutch]

149. They don't get it, They treat it as a coup d'etat. Not a word about

election reform!

[shiina]

154. Obama speaking in Senate

[rodeodance]

160. Kucinich Dem --blasting Blackwell--people do not know that tens of

thousands of people in OHIO were denied the vote!
Boy is he on a roll!!!!

[rodeodance]

election reform is our solumn duty

[imenja]

155. OBAMA speaking in Senate NOW!

[mycatforpresident]

162. And Kucinich in House...oh which TV

do I watch???

Kucinich! "Show commitment to protecting right to vote" "Election reform our solemn duty"

[aWaKeNoW]

161. Go Kucinich!!

[rodeodance]

167. Barb Lee D.California--we will not "get over it_-on a roll!!!

[HR_Pufnstuf]

163. Dennis Kucinich D-OH

"not about red or blue states, or black and white"

"voting machines were misallocated, denying 15,000 to vote"

"blackwell conducted his office in partisan manner"

"the right to vote is protected"

"election reform is our solemn duty"






* apx quotes for tv impaired

[derby378]

164. I never thought I'd see Kucinich weakening...

This is sad...

[Pepper32]

165. GO Dennis Kucinich!!!

[demo dutch]

166. Don't waste your time wachting the house, Senate dems are all

standing up for election reform!

[rodeodance]

Dem NY Nadler--stand up for reform

[rodeodance]

175. we can not accept the fact that our vision for ameica was lost Miller

Repug from Michigan! She is a fool. saying the people must be shaking their heads as they watch this! Rove and a secret computer from the White House!!!

[rodeodance]

179. Candice Miller Repub Michigan--toss her to the dogs! demeaning comments

[Stephanie]

169. Nadler: the right to vote has been stolen from qualified voters.

[mycatforpresident]

170. Rep. Nadler (D) NY

"Right to vote STOLEN"

"Florida looks like a picnic"

[Occulus]

172. got CUT OFF instantly

[HR_Pufnstuf]

171. Gerald Nadler D-NY

"the right to vote has been stolen"

[bunny planet]

177. didn't he just cut Nadler short? I just tuned in to the House hearing, it

seems like he only got to speak for half a minute.

[DemReadingDU]

182. seemed like Nadler spoke for only 30 seconds! n/t

[Pepper32]

173. Lee and Nadler just spoke. Now we have Candice Miller speaking ughhh

[vanboggie]

174. Oh spew - our former SOS

repuke Candice Miller. Switching to Dodd in the Senate.

[mycatforpresident]

181. Couldn't stand Miller then

can't stand her now.

[mycatforpresident]

176. Candice Miller Rep. R Mi

"Democratic party cannot accept they lost the election."

"Dems asking us to overturn election"

TFH remarks

Who has the sour grapes? Kerry won OH!

[derby378]

180. "Paid in crack cocaine???"

Care to provide some evidence, Candy?

[mycatforpresident]

183. She must have paid from her own stash. n/t

[HR_Pufnstuf]

185. yup, she just added to the case.

lol.

[HR_Pufnstuf]

178. Candice Miller R-MI

"paid in crack co-caine"

[rodeodance]

184. says it is a fantasy--turkey!!!! (this objection)

[KDLarsen]

186. I went WTF?

... what has Turkeys got to do with anything?

[rodeodance]

188. it is about undermining our President (R. OHIO--Mike Turner)--dimiishing

this process. it goes on and on.

[mycatforpresident]

187. Mike Turner (R) Ohio

"Dems crying wolf...why object only to Ohio...About undermining our election process..."

[Alizaryn]

189. Who was the funny looking, white haired woman?

[Pepper32]

190. Elijah Cummings speaking. eom

[KDLarsen]

191. D-Cummings

"I'm quite upset to hear that we are trying to break down the election system".