Kerry: "We are going to make history"

[Broken Acorn]

He relayed those words in his message to his supporters I believe on Nov. 22. I was so fired up when I saw that email.

http://www.johnkerry.com/petition/everychild.php

He also talked about how "on the first day Congress meets" he's going to bring up that Child Healthcare bill.

How is he going to do that while in Iraq?

Just confused as usual but still hoping against hope.

[Nothing Without Hope]

1. I'm confused by his actions too.

How can he "make history" if he doesn't push for aggressive investigation of the 2004 fraud and racist voter suppression? If he doesn't support the challenge to the election result, I cannot take seriously his claim to care passionately about clean elections, with every vote counted.

[yinkaafrica]

2. Got no time for that. He's got an election to win in 2008!

And this time, by gum, he's pullimg out all the stops.

[OKthatsIT]

15. Not with my vote..he's finished

fool me once, shame on you
fool me twice, shame on me

[CraZdem4life]

25. no vote for him by me...n/t

[khz]

29. LMAO that would have been nice this time around

anything he tries for 2008 will just be black comedy.
I am done with the Dem (Republican light! Now with less spine!) party if they can't stand for this last election's fraud.
Just one Senator. That's all it takes.
None of them had the stones to stand and object to the 2000 (s)election.

[Name removed]

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[Verve]

4. Good point? How is he going to keep his promise with the child

healthcare bill if he's in Iraq?

My fantasy tells me he has a secret plan.

However, realistically, if I was him, it would be hard to stomach Congress during the electoral college. Maybe he knows he'll blow up at the repugs and instead decided to be civil and take a break until he can compose himself.

[yinkaafrica]

7. The people need to reenergize

What happened to all that pre-election fervor I saw in the
streets before the election. Isn't it time to get over the
shell shock and get back to the business at hand?

[keepthemhonest]

9. I like your fantasy

and I sure do hope it comes true. I wondered about that whole video if he really meant something else.It seems like alot of f'ing if'ing.
We shall see in a couple of days, then maybe we can start fantasizing about something really good.


HOW LONG CAN THEY HIDE IT?

[ginnyinWI]

17. blow up? compose himself?

That's not the John Kerry I see. He's one cool customer. People don't know it when he's actually furious at something, as he was during the campaign. He doesn't show it--that's one of his strengths.

Here is an example: I lifted this from another DUer's post. It shows his cool nature during the POW/MIA years:

<<<Kerry originally wanted his newfound friend McCain to serve as Republican co-chair. But McCain was a hot potatoe in a POW-MIA community wedded to the theory that hundreds, if not thousands, of Americans were still trapped inside Southeast Asia prisons. Extremists in the movement branded McCain a brainwashed "Manchurian Candidate" because of his refusal to adopt their theories. "Things were said about him that I find.......beyond cruel," said Kerry. At the hearings where McCain's anger at his critics flared, Kerry would reach over and place his hand on McCain's arm to calm him down. "I remain grateful to him for doing that," McCain said.

[glitch]

5. I really pray for his sake that he doesn't become the Neville Chamberlain

of the new american century.

Neville made history too.

[nashville_brook]

6. it's OUR turn, now

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x232406

lets be heard!

[Broken Acorn]

8. Here's my follow up question

Why would he go to all the hassle of writing that message, video taping it, and then emailing/streaming it to his supporters?

The whole thing just doesn't make any sense unless he's trying to hide the fact that's he's going to open a can of whoop-ass on the chimp.

[glitch]

11. Please please please let this be true! Waiting is the hardest part. nt

[dalloway]

10. Actually he said together we are going to CHANGE history!

I watched the video again to make sure I remembered correctly.

The difference is that CHANGING history means CHANGING something that had already been written down as having happened--as in the re-election of George Bush! I actually think this was one of those subtle hidden messages that video contained. Why CHANGE history instead of MAKE history if he was really talking about future battles (like health care) instead of talking about revising the past?

[Verve]

12. Hmmmm! Good thought Dalloway! n/t

[Broken Acorn]

13. dalloway, he mentions change and make history

I wrote a long analysis about his speech about a month ago and can't reference the DU archives to find it.

But he mentions both.

[dalloway]

23. that was probably the analysis I read that first made me listen

more carefully to his speech. I remember it being a great analysis. Please send link if you find it. I'd love to bookmark it

[kerrygoddess]

14. He will introduce the Child Healthcare Bill

When Kerry returns from Iraq he will introduce that bill and one to increase troops in Iraq. I hope that everyone signed that petition. That petition is what politics should be about. Our elected officials should be going to the House and the Senate sponsoring bills for the people, by the people.

"A recent Newsweek article stated that upon his return from the Middle East, Kerry will “introduce two bills in the Senate: to provide for health insurance for every child in America and to increase the size of the U.S. military by 40,000 troops.”"

http://www.lightupthedarkness.org/blog/default.asp?view=plink&id=190

[zann725]

18. Not enough. We need him as President NOW. Can't settle for less.

Besides, the Newsweek article everyone was quoting yesterday was from a Kerry quote FOUR DAYS after the election. At that point, no one knew the scope of irregularities and fraud, NOR did anyone know at that point, the groundswell of support (both legal and grass-root) that Kerry and Election Fraud would receive.

Think about it. Why would Newsweek pull an interview that OLD to use RIGHT NOW...4 days befor Jan. 6...unless SOMEONE(S) felt threatened by the challenges about to occur, and wanted to discourage it, diminish it, make those who wanted to proceed feel "leaderless."

If Kerry truly wanted to make a statement about how he felt about the Election NOW, he would've granted Newsweek an update to his earlier statement. OR he would've appeared on Larry King last night with Poppy Bush to talk about how Bush truly won the election. But JK didn't. Just remember that.

Though it would be nice if he showed up on Jan. 6 to show his support...instead of focusing his energies on other nation's troubles at a time when he's needed most here at home.

[ginnyinWI]

16. my take on the video--wanting to be realistic

He is outlining his agenda for Bush's second term: he wants to hold Bush's feet to the fire and defend America against right-wing assaults on our values. Mentions the State Dept., the CIA, and the Cabinet being modeled to rubber-stamp WH policies. He will not be moving toward the center and becoming Repub-lite.

He wants to fight for national electons standards, and healthcare for all children. Just after he talks about child healthcare at some length, he says "together we're gonna re-write history again" and I think he means health care. The first history-making was the grassroots support during the campaign.
Then he refers to what I now understand is his newly-formed PAC which will be on our behalf, not some corporate interests, which he will use to "make our collective energy and organization a force to be reckoned with in the weeks and months ahead." He wants to keep together those who supported him during the campaign active and engaged. Then he says "together we are gonna change history."

Much as I would like to read into these words some sort of secret plan to take over the presidency, there is no real evidence of that. Sure, it could be code, but probably not--maybe this is just a very good and dedicated senator being a very good and dedicated senator. And he certainly feels he owes us his best, after all the support we gave him. He feels a debt of gratitude.

Rove's doublespeak portrayed JK as indecisive, inconsistent and unfocused,but don't be fooled: we know by now is the exact OPPOSITE of the truth about him. He is being totally consistent with his life's work in public service, and is not going to be thrown off the trail now. Gore gave it all up and went away; Kerry will not go quietly, and you can take that to the bank.

[NYCGirl]

20. Gore gave it all up and went away?

Gore fought tooth and nail for six weeks, while the Republicans were beating him up unmercifully, and his own party turned their back on him, only giving up after the Supreme Court decision. He went away because he didn't have a cushy job waiting for him after his fight. Al Gore is a real hero.

[glitch]

21. Thank you. And he's been speaking out in powerful speeches

organized by moveon ever since. And I bet we hear from him again within a month. I am looking forward to it!

I hope Kerry is talking to him.

[NYCGirl]

22. I wouldn't count on their talking, there are parts of the party

that no longer have anything to say to Al Gore — or as he puts it, "I didn't leave the party, the party left me."

[glitch]

24. Yeah, I know. Too bad too, they have a lot in common. nt

[saracat]

28. He didn't say a word for two LOOOONG years!

He grew a beard got fat and hid. Then whenhe waspoised for the nomination, he turned it dowm. People hazzard guesses why but no one KNOWS why he didn't run. He had a moral imperative and he didn't pick up the gauntelet. He abandoned his supporters. Many people he worked with didn't even get thanked in any way. Gore made some great speeches later and now, silence again. Why isn't Gore defending the vote ? Gore is no hero.

[NYCGirl]

30. Well, here's the PUBLIC reason:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/12/15/politics/main533080.shtml

He didn't abandon anyone. He is a private citizen. Moral imperative? Tell that to the chickenshit Democrats who told him to concede in 2000.

Why isn't Clinton defending the vote? He was the President, for Christ's sake? Or Jimmy Carter? Why aren't the people who were involved in THIS election defending the vote?

Gore stood and fought when no one had his back. Even his running mate was telling him to stand down. But he stayed. And for that he's a hero.

[saracat]

31. Two wrongs don't make a right!

He still had a moral imperative . And what does Clinton have to do with Gore stand lately? Jimmy Carter has spoken out. That is why he wasn't invited to that cozy "chatiable' gabfest of ex pres. I have alredy made it clear what I think of Clinton for his outrageous statement!

[politicasista]

26. Where is Gore now?

And why isn't he in Ohio? The GOP semi-destroyed him. He is better now.

[NYCGirl]

27. The party doesn't care about Al Gore.

He's making speeches for moveon.org, and starting a new TV network

http://indtv.net/

[AmerDem]

19. sounds familiar

"we will count every vote and make sure every vote is counted " *sigh*...I'll reserve further comment until Jan. 6th.