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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 08:20 AM
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This is NOT encouraging! Kerry doesn't sound like he is
Edited on Tue Dec-21-04 09:19 AM by saracat
working on overturning 2004 and Will Marshall's statement just proves his disconnect ( what do I expect from a PNACer? ). I hope this is just spin! I know it is faux news but it is an AP story, not that they are credible either!

IGNORE THIS! I just saw the date. Sorry!. I am asleep!
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,139564,00.html

Kerry Won't Go Gently Into Good Night
Friday, November 26, 2004
By Kelley Beaucar Vlahos
PHOTOS

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WASHINGTON — John Kerry (search) was not able to break the frustrating record of senators failing to get elected president, but that doesn't mean he's going to fade into history or even give up on his dream of higher office.

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"He has a lot to be proud of, and I hope he'll find what I did — that it was great to have the U.S Senate to come back to," said Sen. Joe Lieberman (search), who lost a vice presidential bid when he ran with Al Gore in 2000.

Just two weeks after a disappointing election outcome, Kerry's first day back as one of 100 senators included sharing the spotlight with newly installed Minority Leader Harry Reid (search), R-Nev., and suggesting that he would consider a second attempt at becoming president in 2008.


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But will Kerry's bright star guide his party through its troubled times, particularly as the minority party in both chambers on Capitol Hill, or is his mind to continue campaigning for another run in 2008?

Kerry told a Fox News affiliate the day of his Washington return that "it is so premature to be thinking about something that far down the road. What I've said is I'm not opening any doors, I'm not shutting any doors."

Will Marshall, president of the Progressive Policy Institute (search), the think tank of the centrist Democratic Leadership Council (search), said it's way too early to speculate, and Democrats will certainly have varying opinions about whether Kerry is the best man to run in four years.

"John Kerry is a fiercely competitive guy and he doesn't like to lose," Marshall said. "He could well be thinking about it, but right now is not the time to think about that. He understands that and that's why he won't say anything on that score."

Marshall said Kerry will have to decide how and whether he can use the clout he earned on the campaign trail to lead the party, and it will be up to Democrats whether to follow him. One thing going for him is "there isn't a sense this time that our candidate let us down, as there was from certain quarters in 2000," Marshall said.

"We need a nationally prominent spokesman to convey the message and I think he should be the person who does that," he said.

Juan Williams, correspondent for National Public Radio, said Kerry may have trouble with that. He was roundly criticized for "not connecting" to people in the election, and the Democrats don't appear to have a coherent message to sell yet.

"Kerry is not Bill Clinton," Williams said. "I just think he lacks the charisma, that sense of connection to the very vote that won President Bush the election," Williams said. "He plays very badly to the very audience the Democrats need to attract to get back on track."

Simon Rosenberg, president of the New Democrat Network (search), said Kerry will likely be one of "a series of leaders" who will help shape the ideas and advance the causes of the party in the next four years.

"He won't be alone, but has certainly earned the opportunity to really help develop a voice," he said.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.



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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 08:23 AM
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1. "John Kerry is a fiercely competitive guy and he doesn't like to lose,"
Don't worry yet :)
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Paleocon Donating Member (422 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 08:24 AM
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2. Sure you can always go back to the Senate....
Basically a lifetime job with little or no real responsibility...

What's better than that???

Nice pension... Better than Social Security, that's for sure...

Why did we nominate this guy? We had such an opportunity this year and this is the best we could come up with???

Full disclosure... I was for Kucinich/Dean
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 08:26 AM
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4. Don't start. He was nominee. We chose him.
He was our best choice.
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Paleocon Donating Member (422 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 08:30 AM
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5. OK
My mistake...
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The Zanti Regent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 08:26 AM
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3. Oh this is 19th Century fox again
F those liars!
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 08:41 AM
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6. Kerry has conceded - the election is over
It's true, Kerry didn't connect to voters. Charisma shouldn't matter, but it does. Also, Kerry didn't distinguish well enough his stance on the Iraq war. Do I think Kerry would have been a good President? At this point, no. Better than Bush but not good. There is not enough clarity here as to what he stands for. I won't go along with the party again in the future, and I'll never actively work again for a candidate I don't really believe in.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 08:48 AM
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8. He got over 59 million votes.For someone "who didn't connect"
that is pretty damn good. I agree he should have distinguished his position on the war better.He was too"nuanced" I think he had bad advice. His concession means nothing legally. The election might be over except for the counting. If all the votes were counted, I believe Kerry won!
And I believe Kerry would have been great. but JMHO. I also am dissatisified with the Dems but I am staying to push them left.
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davidwhite0570 Donating Member (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 08:55 AM
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12. good....just give up on the Dems....just like
the Repugs want.....see ya don't need ya...
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 09:15 AM
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16.  I didn't say I am giving up! Read my post.I said I am staying to move the
Party left! Sheesh. And no, I am NOT happy with the Party! Must I be?
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:20 AM
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21. Self delete .
Edited on Tue Dec-21-04 10:24 AM by saracat
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:25 AM
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22. Sorry. you weren't responding to me were you?
Man, my headache pills are screwing me up today!
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 03:39 PM
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27. Actually, Kerry captured something like 80% of the "Iraq" vote
The problem was the fear card that Bushco was ruthlessly exploiting.
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 08:42 AM
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7. Juan Williams .... is he still a reporter on FAUX News????
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Chimpanzee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 08:48 AM
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9. This quote is bizzare!
One thing going for him is "there isn't a sense this time that our candidate let us down, as there was from certain quarters in 2000," Marshall said.


WHAT????? WTF???????

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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 08:53 AM
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11. Yeah, That flipped me out too! But as I say,he is PNAC.
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davidwhite0570 Donating Member (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 08:48 AM
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10. if dean would of ran, after he flipped out.....
we would not even be talking about how close this election was imho sorry
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MellowOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 09:01 AM
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14. How easily you are giving up!
We don't even know for sure that he really lost the election!
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:29 AM
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23. Do you mean Dean would have received more than 59 million
votes or that Dean would not have received as many votes? :shrug:

We could have resurrected Dale Earnhardt or Elvis, made them dems and our nominee for the job and they still wouldn't have won. IT WAS STOLEN from US. Hell, Jesus wouldn't have won if he had ran.

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jdog Donating Member (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 09:00 AM
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13. This is dated 11/26/04.
Edited on Tue Dec-21-04 09:03 AM by jdog
A great deal has happened since then. I don't think it means anything.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 09:15 AM
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17. That's what I thought
It's been almost a month! Why dig this up now?
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 09:17 AM
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18. Thank You.I am brain dead. You are right!
I linked from another current DU post and assumed it was current! I guess I "assumed" and made an ass of myself! Thank you. I feel better now!
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 09:14 AM
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15. Consider the sources...
Fox
AP
Joe Lieberman
DNC
NPR

Totally clueless.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 09:22 AM
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19. Since when is minority leader, Harry Reid, a Republican?
Was this a typo in the original article? Note the reference: R-Nev.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 09:58 AM
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20. Freudian slip? He might as well be!
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 03:36 PM
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24. saracat
Per DU copyright rules
please post only four
paragraphs from the
copyrighted news source.


Thank you.

DU Moderator
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 03:38 PM
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25. :(
Edited on Tue Dec-21-04 03:38 PM by Faye
now it's kicked - she realized the article was outdated anyway. maybe it shouldl be locked? (not flaming you or her, just an idea! :( )
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 03:38 PM
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26. Can you delete this thread please? The date is WAY OLD. n/t
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RaulVB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 04:40 PM
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28. November 26th, 2004?
A bit old, don't you think?
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