George Lakoff speaking on Talk of the Nation PBS now

[Bernardo de La Paz]

[Bernardo de La Paz]

1. "There are more liberal christians but they aren't organized"

[AndyTiedye]

2. and they don't own the VOTING MACHINEZ!

The Dominionists have STOLEN our country from us!

[Kolesar]

3. He had an article on semantics in Sierra Magazine

It was about framing bad political positions to sound good. I have studied communications and, to tell the truth, I did not "get" it. I must be too cynical.

Does Lakoff have a book that you recommend?

[jean]

5. start with 'Don't think of an Elephant!' Short, easy to read great ref

here's a sampler of the book:

http://www.chelseagreen.com/images/DTE_Sampler.pdf

[Kolesar]

6. Thanks! eom

[jean]

4. Lakoff's comments - trying to keep up

People vote their values - press has not been up on this and has not figured out what those values are nor has the Democratic Party told them what those values are.

Coherent ideology - Dems have it but have divisions. We've figured out at Rockridge that the Dem Pary has not yet acknowledged that they have shared values

There are more liberal Christians in this country than conservative Christians - the LC's haven't expressed their theology and it's relationship to their religious values. No spokesman for this, for the liberal Christians.

...taking calls

caller says we don't have separation of Church and State, cites taking away of 10 Commandments from public arenas...infringing on rights of Christians...

Lakoff: Freedoms are not threatened and YES the constitution does have separation of C/S, if you read it. Your freedoms have not been impugned. The radical right has imposed a hierarchy in this country and this is supposed to be a democratic country. Hierarchy is of financial wealth, strict father model - your model of Christianity is not that of the majority of Christians in this country.

Done - bye bye