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bennywhale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-05 07:40 AM Original message |
Compulsory ID Card debate to begin today. |
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SouthernDem2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-05 08:40 AM Response to Original message |
1. Do the British have something like SS numbers that the government uses? |
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tjwmason (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-05 08:53 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Nothing quite like S.S. |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-05 09:01 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. We have a National Insurance number |
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tjwmason (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-05 09:46 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Just keep repeating |
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Englander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-05 10:14 AM Response to Original message |
5. Price of ID card = £93!!! |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-05 10:27 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. What annoys me is that we pay VAT on this! |
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Anarcho-Socialist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-05 11:40 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. It is ridiculous |
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D-Notice (820 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-05 11:34 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. What if you can't afford it? |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-05 11:48 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. They throw you in debtor's prison, probably (n/t) |
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bennywhale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-05 06:15 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. 1. I'm going to claim i can't afford one. 2. If they steal it out my bank |
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bennywhale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-05 06:18 PM Response to Reply #5 |
12. Finger print recognition was only 70% reliable. Less for Black people |
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Nihil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-27-05 08:32 AM Response to Reply #5 |
19. Nope, it'll be more than that ... £93 is the unit cost, not the fee! |
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T_i_B (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-05 06:51 AM Response to Reply #5 |
22. ID cards to cost £300 per person |
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fedsron2us (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-05 11:55 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Iceberg dead ahead |
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Englander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-05 12:24 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Yes - How long do you think it will be... |
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D-Notice (820 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 04:46 AM Response to Reply #24 |
27. They started off as something similar: |
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Englander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 06:36 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. I didn't know that; |
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T_i_B (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 06:39 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. I can remember..............just! |
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D-Notice (820 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 10:24 AM Response to Reply #28 |
34. Here's a link to the original document about them |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 08:11 AM Response to Reply #24 |
30. Motto of the World State in Brave New World: |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-05 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
7. They should add corporations to this legislation |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-26-05 05:48 AM Response to Original message |
13. UK ID scheme rides again, as biggest ID fraud of them all |
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bennywhale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-26-05 06:03 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Lying is in New Labour's blood. I fucking hate them |
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Briar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-27-05 03:51 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. US wants to be able to access Britons' ID cards |
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Englander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-27-05 05:06 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Question - Would you want anyone's personal info.. |
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bennywhale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-27-05 09:22 AM Response to Reply #16 |
20. If they want my information, i want all bank accounts, health records |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-27-05 06:37 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. What about the European information privacy directive? |
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Briar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-27-05 08:12 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. More balls than Blunkett, I hope |
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D-Notice (820 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-05 04:41 AM Response to Original message |
21. ID cards to cost £300 per person |
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mr blur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-05 02:59 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. Does anyone really believe this shit? |
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bennywhale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-05 05:42 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. This is the most sophisticated and extensive system of its kind anywhere |
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Nihil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 09:15 AM Response to Reply #26 |
32. Or both (i.e., biggest f-u AND most unfree democracy) |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 09:30 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. I didn't think this was actually going to be RFID |
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Nihil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 11:38 AM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Could be ... |
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bennywhale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-02-05 08:31 AM Response to Reply #32 |
36. I'm just not going to have one. As i said i'll burn it. If that means |
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Anarcho-Socialist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 09:08 AM Response to Original message |
31. I'm scared that it will make ID theft worse |
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Monkey see Monkey Do (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-05 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
37. Union blow to ID card scheme |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-05 07:52 AM Response to Original message |
38. Information Commissioner doesn't like the proposed system |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-05 06:42 AM Response to Reply #38 |
40. ID cards 'will reveal details of daily life' |
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bennywhale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-05 02:19 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Charles Clark said today. "This will help protect AGAINST a big brother |
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D-Notice (820 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-05 02:29 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Exactly... |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-05 07:58 AM Response to Original message |
39. Key areas of concern in the LSE report |
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Taxloss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-05 05:13 PM Response to Reply #39 |
50. Unless your details are deliberately leaked by disgruntled employees |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-05 07:05 AM Response to Original message |
41. A quote from Blair to remember |
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fedsron2us (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-05 02:45 PM Response to Original message |
44. Passport applicants face grilling |
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D-Notice (820 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-05 03:05 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Better get the passport renewed then! |
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fedsron2us (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-05 03:58 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. I think you have to 'lose' or 'damage' it in order to renew |
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Oggy (652 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-05 04:20 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. oh dear |
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D-Notice (820 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-05 03:44 AM Response to Reply #47 |
52. Mine too... |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-05 04:32 PM Response to Original message |
48. MPs narrowly back ID cards plan |
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fedsron2us (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-05 04:42 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Government majority of 31 includes DUP votes |
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D-Notice (820 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-05 03:44 AM Response to Reply #49 |
51. Robin Cook voted in favour of it! |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-05 04:25 AM Response to Reply #51 |
53. It would be interesting to know if all the absentees were paired off |
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fedsron2us (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-05 02:33 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. Last time I listen to Andrew Marr |
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D-Notice (820 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 06:10 AM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Time for a challenge under the Human Rights Act |
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D-Notice (820 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-01-05 03:50 AM Response to Original message |
56. Not sure if this has been mentioned anywhere: |
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bennywhale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-01-05 05:32 AM Response to Reply #56 |
57. New Labour's authoritarian obsession will be their downfall. This is goin |
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fedsron2us (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-01-05 07:53 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. The joys of 'Oligarchical Collectivism' in Ingsoc |
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D-Notice (820 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-02-05 05:33 AM Response to Reply #58 |
59. I guess this means: |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-02-05 05:58 AM Response to Reply #59 |
60. The spin doctors and special advisers are the Inner Party |
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D-Notice (820 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-02-05 07:06 AM Response to Reply #60 |
61. Wouldn't they be Minitrue? |
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D-Notice (820 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-04-05 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
62. As no one's mentioned this |
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bennywhale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-06-05 10:29 AM Response to Reply #62 |
63. This is what happened in australia. Once the public realised the full |
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D-Notice (820 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-09-05 06:13 AM Response to Original message |
64. Treasury study shows Brown's ID card doubts |
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D-Notice (820 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-05 10:18 AM Response to Original message |
65. Identity Cards Act 2006 |
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bennywhale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-05 07:07 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. So the passport will still require fingerprints, Iris image etc eventually |
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T_i_B (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-05 07:01 AM Response to Original message |
67. Government to issue 'ID cards' to teenagers |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-05 07:21 AM Response to Reply #67 |
68. Somehow, this sounds like a 'party card' from a communist regime |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-19-05 01:28 AM Response to Reply #67 |
70. Some details now available |
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Nihil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-19-05 04:26 AM Response to Reply #70 |
71. (This should probably be its own thread really) |
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D-Notice (820 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-19-05 04:59 AM Response to Reply #70 |
72. Well, after all |
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D-Notice (820 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-05 08:07 AM Response to Original message |
69. Australia as well? |
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demobrit (279 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-19-05 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
73. ID cards |
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fedsron2us (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-19-05 04:13 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. Your future according to Michael Proudhon |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-19-05 04:39 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. welcome to DU, demobrit! |
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demobrit (279 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-05 09:49 AM Response to Reply #75 |
77. Thanks |
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Anarcho-Socialist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-19-05 05:36 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. Welcome to DU |
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demobrit (279 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-05 09:57 AM Response to Reply #76 |
78. I.D Cards |
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D-Notice (820 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-05 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
79. LSE's rebuttal to a rebuttal |
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