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HeresyLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 01:41 PM
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An Attack on Israel is an Attack on Canada
Ottawa Minister: An Attack on Israel is an Attack on Canada

by Tzvi Ben Gedalyahu

(IsraelNN.com) An Iranian attack on Israel would be considered an attack on Canada, according to Peter Kent, Canada's Minister of State for Foreign Affairs of the Americas and a legislator from an Ontario community with a large Jewish population.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/136023

What??

I don't want our troops pulled out of Afghanistan just so we can send them to Iran for some cockamamie Harper religious foreign policy....!
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 04:07 PM
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1. An Israeli attack on Iran however,.......
would have our unqualified support.
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HeresyLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 04:40 PM
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2. Oh Harper would love that, I'm sure.
Never mind all the kids that would be killed, kids trying to overthrow the govt.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 06:14 PM
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3. This dope isn't ready for prime time
“Prime Minister Harper has made it quite clear for some time now and has regularly stated that an attack on Israel would be considered an attack on Canada,” said Kent. “We work with our allies. We regularly convey our concern in a variety of ways, at the United Nations, as well as one on one... We certainly share information and views with the government of Israel and with other democracies.”

Kent also favors placing sanctions before resorting to a a military attack on Iran, which he said “is the last ”possible option but remains in the broad range of options and unfortunate possibilities.”

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No doubt he will claim to be misquoted, and that's a possibility. Still, there are some things a minister should be so careful about that there is no chance to be misquoted. Being dragged into a middle east war would be the ultimate nightmare.

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RedSock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 10:10 PM
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18. then grab a gun, sweater boy
when oh when will this fuckhead be out of a job..............
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 08:39 PM
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4. Aw Jayzuss H Kristus - an attack on Israel is an attack on Israel
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And Iran ain't gonna do it

Israel has nukes thanx to the USA

Iran has squat.

So now us so called "PEACEKKEPING" Canadians are sabre-rattling right along with the pre-emptive shit from the USA . . .

are we Canuks all stupid?

yayzuzfuckenchristus . .

it's sure looking like it

frigadee . .

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HeresyLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 09:03 PM
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5. Depressing, isn't it?
A non-nuclear power like Canada is going to come to the aid of a nuclear power like Israel.

Gawd I wish we'd go back to being peace-keepers.
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 06:24 PM
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6. "Gawd I wish we'd go back to being peace-keepers"
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yup

I used to be proud to be Canadian;

but we've fallen into this "pre-emptive" shit

so Ok - I THINK my neighbor might do me harm,

so I'll kill them first . . .

just in case ya know . . .

(sigh)

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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 06:30 PM
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7. "Gawd I wish we'd go back to being peace-keepers"
Me too! We used to be respected for being peace-keepers and for being 'honest brokers' on issues like Israel and the Palestinians but no longer, sadly.

Our reputation is going the way of the US during bush's 'reign'. Not surprising, I guess, given little Stevie boy emulates his idol.
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HeresyLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 06:46 PM
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8. I think most Canadians prefer that role.
Make the peace, keep the peace, observe the peace, leave.
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 07:06 PM
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9. Yes we do
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did, anyways . . .

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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 07:50 PM
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10. Yes, I believe most Canadians would agree...
It was Hillier who started the denigration of "peacekeeping" as the role for our military and started pushing hard for a combat role. Unfortunately the Libs bought into it. I was totally disgusted when the mission in Afghanistan was changed, under Martin, from peacekeeping and security to one of combat. I am glad that warmonger, Hillier, is no longer part of the mix.
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HeresyLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 07:55 PM
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11. We were never in Afghanistan for peacekeeping.
We were called out to combat under Article 5 of NATO.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 08:11 PM
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12. No, the role for Canada, under NATO, begain as peace-keeping and security...
in and around Kabul, it was under the Martin government that changed the role to 'combat':

From August 2003 to December 2005, Canada's military commitment was largely Operation Athena, based in the capital, Kabul, as part of the International Assistance Force. ISAF had the aim of providing intelligence and security to allow rebuilding of "the democratic process," which eventually led to elections in the fall of 2005.



Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2009/02/10/f-afghanistan.html#ixzz0fqTNM3k2
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HeresyLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 08:27 PM
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13. We were called out to help find bin Laden
under Article 5 of NATO.

The 'embroidery' came later.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 08:59 PM
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14. We were part of the International Security Force in Kabul...
The first major wave of troops did not arrive in Afghanistan until Feb of 2002 and the role we took on in 2002 providing security and keeping the peace in Kabul. It did not change until May of 2005.

"embroidery"??
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HeresyLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 09:28 PM
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15. 2001–2002 initial deployment
2001–2002 initial deployment

Although not participating at all in the opening days of the invasion, Prime Minister Jean Chrétien's Liberal government announced on October 7 that Canada would contribute forces to the international force being formed to conduct a campaign against terrorism. General Ray Henault, the Chief of the Defence Staff, issued preliminary orders to several CF units, as Operation Apollo was established. The Canadian commitment was originally planned to last to October 2003.

Forty Joint Task Force Two (JTF2) operators were sent to Afghanistan in December 2001, two months after then Minister of Defence, Art Eggleton, announced that Canada would be sending troops to Afghanistan to aid the removal of the Taliban.<1>

Upon the regular forces arriving on the ground in January–February 2002 the Canadians were used supporting the war effort until Operation Anaconda began. During the operation, a Canadian sniper team broke, and re-broke, the kill record for a long distance sniper kill set in the Vietnam War by a U.S. Marine, Staff Sergeant Carlos Hathcock.<1><2> Operation Anaconda was also the first time since the Korean War that Canadian soldiers relieved American soldiers in a combat situation.

2002–2005
In March 2002, three Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry snipers fought alongside U.S. Army units during Operation Anaconda. Canadian forces also undertook Operation Harpoon in the Shah-i-Kot Valley. Other forces in the country provided garrison and security troops.

On April 18, 2002, a friendly fire incident caused Canadian casualties when an American F-16 jet dropped a laser-guided bomb on a group of Canadian soldiers. The PPCLI soldiers were conducting night-time training on a designated live-fire range, and the American pilots claim they mistook their gunfire for a Taliban insurgent attack. Four Canadians were killed and eight were wounded in the bombing (see Tarnak Farm incident).

In 2003, the Canadian Forces moved to the northern city of Kabul where it became the commanding nation of the newly formed International Security Assistance Force. In spring 2005 it was announced that the Canadian Forces would move back to the volatile Kandahar Province as the U.S. forces handed command to the Canadians in the region.

2003–2005 Operation Athena
In August 2003, Operation Athena began outside Kabul as part of ISAF, with a 1,900-strong Canadian task force providing assistance to civilian infrastructure such as well-digging and repair of local buildings.

In March 2004, Canada committed $250 million in aid to Afghanistan, and $5 million to support the 2004 Afghan election.<3>

On 13 February 2005, Defence Minister Bill Graham announced Canada was doubling the number of troops in Afghanistan by the coming summer, from 600 troops in Kabul to 1200.<4>

Operation Athena ended in December 2005 and the fulfilment of the stated aim of "rebuilding the democratic process" in Afghanistan.<5>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada's_role_in_the_invasion_of_Afghanistan#2001.E2.80.932002_initial_deployment
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 10:04 PM
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16. Please use a source that has some credibility...
wikipedial does not on issues like this.

CBC timeline:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/afghanistan/timeline.html
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HeresyLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 10:05 PM
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17. Try the military website then. Says the same thing.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 10:42 PM
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19. LOL, the military website?
Try this:

Thu 31 Aug 2006


Four years ago, Canadians embarked on a mission to help reconstruction efforts in war-ravaged Afghanistan, and to bring some measure of stability and security to that country’s fledgling government in Kabul.

Last fall, under the former Liberal government, Canada’s mission in Afghanistan changed dramatically, from reconstruction to fighting in the US led counter insurgency war in Kandahar and surrounding regions.

http://archive.ndp.ca/page/4119

or this:

But some critics would later allege that in quietly expanding Canada's role in the war-torn nation, the government altered radically the country's commitment to Afghanistan. The shift transformed a NATO-endorsed peace stabilization operation into a combat mission in support of a dangerous, U.S.-led war to break the back of Taliban and al-Qaeda insurgents and Afghan drug lords.

http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/observer/story.html?id=97373d9e-6a7d-4c13-b833-46659de04495

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HeresyLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 11:01 PM
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20. Yup, the CAF has one.
There are even specific army, navy airforce chat sites beyond the official ones.
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