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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-09-09 03:39 PM
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General changes story on Taliban suspect (Here we go!)
Gen. Walter Natynczyk, Canada's top military commander, is now saying a suspected Taliban fighter abused by Afghan police in June 2006 had been detained by Canadian troops, contrary to comments he made Tuesday.

"The individual who was beaten by the Afghan police was, in fact, in Canadian custody," Natynczyk told reporters in Ottawa on Wednesday.

Natynczyk had told a parliamentary committee that Canadian troops questioned the man who was picked up during operations in Zangabad. But Natynczyk said it was the Afghans who took him into custody.

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(Ignatieff)
“The issue here is trust. We can’t trust this government, We can’t trust a word that comes out of the mouth of this minister. When will the prime minister fire him and call a full independent public inquiry?”

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http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2009/12/09/natynczyk-detainee.html

The heat is increasing exponentially on Harper and his cabal of liars, very good news!
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CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-09-09 08:46 PM
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1. Abused suspect not detained by Canadians: general
Canada's top military commander denied reports that a suspected Taliban fighter abused by Afghan police in June 2006 had earlier been detained by Canadian troops.

Gen. Walter Natynczyk, Canada's chief of defence staff, told a parliamentary committee on Tuesday that Canadian troops questioned the man who was picked up during operations in Zangabad. But it was the Afghans who took him into custody, Natynczyk said.

"We didn't take this person under custody," he said.

Opposition parties have pointed to the June 2006 incident as proof the Conservative government knew of credible incidents of torture and of the dangers of transferring prisoners.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2009/12/08/natynczyk-detainee.html
Tuesday, December 8, 2009 | 10:20 PM ET

Referring to the sworn testimony from a general and a colonel who claimed the detainee was transferred by Canadian troops, Natynczyk said those officers weren't on the ground in Kandahar at the time of the incident.

Nor was the military police corporal who wrote field notes about the incident, he added.

"He wasn't there at the event, he was there after," he said.
The general wasn't there either.

He is obviously an incompetent individusl.

FTR: AFGHAN DETAINEE TORTURE - NATYNCZK/FTR: DETAINEE TORTUR
Canadian Defence Minister Peter MacKay has said it again and again: No proof exists that Canadian forces handed over even one Afghan detainee to face abuse by Afghan security forces.

But today Canada's top general said, there is indeed such proof.

Canada's Chief of Defense Staff General Walter Natynczyk held a hastily-called press conference in Ottawa this morning to outline the case of an Afghan detainee who was beaten after being transferred from Canadian to Afghan custody.

This took place in June 2006 -- around the same time diplomat Richard Colvin began warning the Canadian government about the possible abuse of Canadian-transferred detainees.

http://www.cbc.ca/mrl3/8752/asithappens/20091209-aih-1.wmv
http://www.cbc.ca/asithappens/latestshow.html
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-10-09 10:47 PM
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2. The Globe article said the military detained this man because he didn't "feel right"
That is a quote from the military field notes. It tends to confirm Colvin's claim that we were arresting people on flimsy and non-existent evidence, and many of those would likely be totally innocent of any wrongdoing.
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