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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 10:27 PM
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John Roberts was cowardly on CNN with Falkenrath of Brookings Inst.
I'm sure most of you Canadians remember him when he was J.D.Roberts of Much Music in Toronto and he knows that Richard Falkenrath was misleading about the "terrorist threat we've long known about that goes back to the 80s." In the first place, Falkenrath was in the Bush Administration before he joined the Brookings Inst. The "terrorist threat we've long known about" he's referring to, as Roberts well knows, has nothing to do with Islamic terrorism. It is the Air India bombing, for which 2 Sikhs living in Canada (not sure if they were citizens) were tried. The bomb went off in the plane over the Atlantic Ocean, near Ireland and 329 died. Most of them were Canadians of Indian descent. The two men belonged to a Sikh separatist group devoted to creating a Sikh state called Khalistan in the Punjab....These people had NO connection to Islamic terrorists nor did they want to harm Canada (or the U.S.A. for that matter). Their beef was with their home country of India. John Roberts was in Toronto at the time and knows that and yet made no effort to correct Falkenrath, but rather let him imply that Canada was rife with Islamic terrorists for many years....Roberts is disgusting.
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ClusterFreak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 10:51 PM
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1. Roberts is brutal.
I was disgusted too....he simply let this misleading claim stand unchallenged. I can't stand him, and his fake middle American accent.

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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 09:12 AM
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2. So...
Your shocked about a media figure not being honest...

Well then how disgusting is it that investigators kept suggesting that -- "Just one-third of that amount of ammonium nitrate was used in the bombing of a U.S. federal building in Oklahoma City that killed 168 people in 1995."

Nichols and McVey weren't Islamic terrorists in an 'Al Queda inspired' cell...but they were terrorists, so they fit the bill.

Roberts and Falkenrath are selling 'fear'; why should fact or accuracy matter now at this point, since it hasn't been important so far...?
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 10:45 AM
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3. Whatever your convoluted point is has nothing to do with what I'm
Edited on Wed Jun-07-06 11:04 AM by glarius
saying. My point is that John Roberts is a Canadian who knows better and yet allowed a right wing nut, Falkenrath, who used to be in the Bush administration to paint a phony picture of the situation in Canada! He could very easily have informed the viewers of the facts about the Air India bombers, but then of course he would be letting the cat out of the bag that he is a Canadian...which he seems intent on hiding.
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 11:18 AM
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4. Blatchford is American...
again so what? Because this fact is not forthcoming in her column from Monday, is that shocking or is she 'hiding' something? Shouldn't she know better or didn't our 'good old' Canuck way of looking at the world somehow miss her in all these decades?

It's all terrorism...why the hell would some deadbeat MSM pretty boy talking head go out of his way to correct 'popular perceptions or misconceptions'? When do they ever do this? When?

My point is hardly convoluted in mentioning the Media frames it all as 'terrorism' without context; hardly shocking. Again, if that pisses you off what some former Canadian says or does, who you simply assume can even spell 'air' or 'india' let alone KNOW something it, then why wouldn't you be equally pissed off that the RCMP are invoking a completely unrelated terrorist incident to taint the current questionable case against these 17 (could be MORE!!) terrorists.

You said it...why didn't Roberts 'correct' the impression? So why aren't the cops correcting this impression or is this NOT the intent of invoking the Murrow Building bombing? To confuse the public and present only aspects of an 'opinion' without context, perhaps?

Why pissed at Roberts for doing the same thing as government officials? Seems to me there are the same outfit most of the time; you still want to believe there is some 'companion' relationship of 'public good' and some marketed 'watchdog' status the media seems to promote for itself.

Oh yeah...what's the "phony picture of the situation in Canada" that Falkenrath marketed? So what is the real story about Air India? What should have Roberts barked? That the Air India bombing might have intelligence involvement? The Air India bombing was botched from the outset? The investigation went on for decades and finally ended in a shamefully pathetic trial. The ringleader, Malik is still well loved and influencial in the Sikh community and is setting up minority schools which will teach Canadian values and culture to all?

Read more...then things won't be so convoluted...your chasing shadows...
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 11:52 AM
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5. I hate to have to answer this silliness!
Edited on Wed Jun-07-06 11:53 AM by glarius
Firstly, Christie Blatchford is a Canadian, born in Quebec....Look it up!....
Secondly....My thread is not about the Air India bombing or trial which was concerned with Sikhs who had a beef with their country of origin, India. They meant no harm to Canada so THAT IS WHY I POINTED OUT FALKENRATH'S BOGUS REFERENCE TO IT AS CANADA BEING RIFE WITH TERRORISTS SINCE THE 1980s, which he would know was incorrect.
Sorry, but I find most of what you write pointless.

By the way, in both your posts you said "your" when you should have said "you're"....you're welcome!
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 12:29 PM
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6. Again the point is over your head...
Yeah Blatchford was the Canuck and I was thinking Wente (wonder why--one's conservative and one's liberal--maybe that's it)...

But the point you were making is that you are pissed at JD Roberts, who was born here, not doing the extraordinary thing like making some guy from the Brookings Institute check his refs? That's what I am saying--'why does he being a Canadian make any difference?'--you never explained it and if that is SOMETHING that get's to you, then do you hold this standard against everyone...like ex-pat Brits not jumping up to defend 'popular' opnions regarding Ireland? Why the double-standard?

What does it matter if Roberts lived here and 'should have known' as opposed to some dumbass from the Brookings Institute who could have availed himself of the facts if he so choosed...

Now this is just sickening: They meant no harm to Canada

Huh? You know this because these scumbags told you? Funny I would think it fair comment to suggest they are liars when in fact they killed mostly Canadians on a flight between Canada and India? No to mention the Japanese baggage handlers? What collateral damage?

...terrorists like this generally don't care who dies, so to buff up their image with notions that their 'message' might not have gotten out on CNN during an interview involving a guy born in Canada, is really quite shocking...
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 01:13 PM
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7. YOU ARE THE ONE WHO IS MISSING THE POINT!
You seem to be intent on arguing for the sake of arguing over irrelevant points. Don't expect me to answer any more of your posts. You go off in all directions which I just find silly, annoying and mostly BORING!...Sayonara...
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IntravenousDemilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 05:16 PM
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8. Neither Blatchford nor Wente is liberal.
They're both handmaidens to the neocons. And THAT, I think, is why you confused the two. They're both the same. They probably double-date with John Ibbitson and Marcus Gee.
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