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The Jacobin Donating Member (820 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 05:26 PM
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So how do you hold up?
So I just got my ass chewed out on the national forum for expressing a bit of wory about the outcome of the election.

I mentioned that because there are only liberals in print here in Texas (a reference to the Texas Observer, and the fact that there is not a single liberal on the radio in the Dallas market), it is hard for me to not get depressed.

VelmaD said all the Texas liberals are in here (which is not quite a reply to what I said, but no matter).

So how do you hear that pro-Bush crap all day and not get depressed?
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mourningdove92 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 05:29 PM
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1. I come to DU to find out the truth and get a breath of fresh air.
I also, NEVER post negative posts about our candidate. I also live in Texas, and know lots of liberals. Texas is going to surprise America this time. Probably not blue, but not red either. Very pale pink.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 07:46 PM
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8. Let's hope so!
"Very pale pink" That would work for me! :bounce:
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Mistress Quickly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 05:31 PM
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2. I hear ya!
I'm in rural GA here. Its the same.

4 more days. 4 more days.
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PDittie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 05:37 PM
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3. Dude, it happens to everybody
with a low post count.

By now you have learned that to express reservations with fewer than 1000 posts is just asking for a flaming.

Post just emoticons for awhile. And give us some good news from the hinterlands. There's bound to be some somewhere...

Anybody who picked a handle like 'The Jacobin' is bound to have some revolutionary blood in them...
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bookman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 05:39 PM
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4. Air America
I'm in the Houston area. I've been uplifted by AA. I streamed at first, but now listen on Sirius Radio. Worth every penny.
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Brazosboomer Donating Member (337 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 02:03 PM
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14. Amen!
Everybody out there - ask Santa to bring you Sirius. You get AA and great music stations. What a deal!
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djeseru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 06:37 PM
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5. I'm unsure of your situation
and how it is you get stuck listening to all pro-Bush, all day, but you have my sympathies! I used to work in a print shop in Fort Worth where the bosses' sister-in-law listened to Limbaugh - ugh, the hate...

Personally, I had to just quit listening, watching and reading all that the media makes available, which was well over a year ago. Only C-Span, PBS, DU and Truthout for me these days...
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 06:52 PM
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6. I live in the land of Clear Channel
I survive by (a) turning off my tv except for shows i really want to see, (b) streaming Air America at work & (c) listening to my sirius satellite radio (tuned to AAR or Sirius Left) in the car & at home.

aaaahhhhhh. :)

oh, and come to du several times a day to see what's up. :)

thanks DU for restoring my sanity!!!

dg
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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 07:22 PM
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7. See, I told ya there were liberals around here
Edited on Fri Oct-29-04 07:23 PM by VelmaD
:)

Welcome to DU. A couple of things you need to understand as a new person. First, we've been expecting a lot of Freepers to invade the site this week so people are a little bit on edge around new people. That'll pass. I seem to recall you posted in the GD:Campaign forum and that place is ALWAYS a madhouse. It's much easier to get to know people in the state forums and in the Lounge than in the loony bin that is GD and GD:Campaign. :)

Anyway, I've never been one to get down...I get mad instead. :evilgrin: I do think there's been some good advice in this thread though for ways you can help yourself. Turn off the tv and the right-wing talk radio. Hell, turn off all the corporate media for that matter. And no cable news...that shit will rot your brain. Hit www.truthout.org or the Late Breaking News forum here. Call your local Democratic party headquarters and ask them if there's anything you can do between now and election day. Put up signs. Hang fliers. Call people who haven't voted yet. Drive people to the polls. It's amazing how much better I feel when I've got something concrete to DO.

Let's get those Bush Bastards!!! :)
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BlueCollar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 09:10 PM
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9. I turn on the radio
to the freeper station...570KLIF here in Fort Worth at 5:00 am...then I boot up DU....sit down with a cup of coffee and start pounding freeper ankarlo with e-mails using all the ammo the DU nightshift has put up in GD2004, LBN, etc....

Usually anything bashing fundies or comparing fundies to the taliban puts him over the edge...once I've made him good and mad I get ready for work...

uniform of the day...any "liberal t-shirt" or pro-Kerry shirt plus mandatory campaign button...guaranteed to piss off right-wing assholes at work...

next stop...Starbucks for a fresh copy of the New York Times...also guaranteed to piss off fundie/freeper types at work. Usually get at least one person line saying "I like your button/T-shirt" etc..Pick up a cup of coffee also. (Thursdays I stop in at the bagel deli next to Starbucks...pick up a copy of the FW Weekly (Local alternative paper)

on the way to work...listen to ankarlo whine about kerry...call his producer and tell her that ankarlo's whining louder than usual today...hang up.

Pass then slow down in front of bush*/cheney stickered vehicles allowing them ample time to read my "Veteran for Kerry" sticker...give them a peace sign when they pass by looking annoyed.

At work, read NYT and make loud disparaging remarks about Bush/Cheney et al...attempt conversation/debate with workplace freepers...laugh at yesterday's now debunked arguments...treat with utter contempt known bush*istas...

bottom line is...the only way I know how to do it is to fight back with every fiber of my being...

course...that's cause I'm up here in FW...now if I was down in Austin...I'd be partying with the Austin DU'ers...they're fun

bottom line...I get a healthy dose of DU first thing in the morning...

try it...it works...

:toast:



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Frogtutor Donating Member (739 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 10:59 AM
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18. LOL!
I love it--that's great! I'm in Fort Worth, too, so I know where you're coming from...keep up the good work!
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 10:18 PM
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10. Grow a thick skin.
Texas Democrat:
Big heart.
Thick skin.
Loud mouth.

On a more serious note, you don't say where you are, but my recommendation would be to get involved. There are Democrats everywhere, especially in the major metropolitan areas but also in the rural counties... if you are in Dallas PM me, I can hook you up. Otherwise, start looking & keep calling until you get hooked in! :D

And , welcome to DU! :hi:

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Darby Donating Member (484 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 04:21 PM
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11. I read this...
John Kerry - Super Hero

In the vicious end of days in this campaign, so much gets lost in the caterwauling of the media. Here's something that's happened in the last couple of days: John Kerry has found the last piece of the puzzle, the final cause to push to the end of the battle. If you've listened to Kerry since the dual revelations of the missing 760,000 pounds of high-powered explosives from a known ammo dump and the coming request for an additional $70 billion dollars for Iraq and Afghanistan, Kerry has become the man we've all heard about - the unstoppable crusader for what's right against however powerful the forces of evil may be. Kerry has been tough-guy posturing for most of the campaign, and it's been a ludicrous sight. How many animals must be hunted and killed in order for a Democrat to look strong on defense? As Bradford Whitford said on Bill Maher's show last week, "How many times does a guy have to be shot in the ass running across rice paddies in Vietnam in order to look tougher than the cheerleader from Andover?"

Here's the deal - what's been missing from the entire Kerry campaign is just how tough a motherfucker John Kerry really, actually is, and it's got jackshit to do with hunting geese and killing the Vietcong. Kerry is a superhero, the kind of valiant son of a bitch who doesn't give a rat's ass about his own life in order to make the lives of others better. It's his post-Vietnam life that makes him a superhero. You don't know how much a superhero the man in the cape is by his origins. You know a superhero by his deeds. And if Kerry loses, it'll be because his campaign refused to acknowledge just how kick-ass Kerry has been since his final purple heart (and if Kerry loses, adviser Bob Shrum, who, in essence, said the public was too stupid to understand Kerry's accomplishments, should be strung up by his balls and batted around like a pinata by the Democratic party leadership until he bursts open and showers everyone with his innards).

Yeah, yeah, this is gonna be a down-on-the-knees-Kerry-supportin-hummer of an entry, but the Rude Pundit keeps talking to people who sigh and say, "I guess I'm gonna vote for Bush" because they can't bring themselves to vote for Kerry. They see him as weak. They see him as a flip-flopper. In other words, they see him as the projection of self that Bush has imposed on Kerry. In other words, these voters are too blinded by the glow that emits from the crown on Bush's head to believe that they own the democracy.

Kerry vs. Nixon: When Kerry helped organize the Vietnam Veterans Against the War, he was directly confronting a hegemonic ideology in the country that said the people must blindly follow their leaders. Kerry, villified at the time with incredible viciousness, did not back down from charges of treason and heresy. Check out the end of the book The New Soldier, which Kerry co-wrote and edited in order to talk about what the young men returning from Vietnam had confronted in the name of "freedom" from Communism. The book is, ironically enough, mostly reprinted on an anti-Kerry site. Kerry writes, "We are asking America to turn from false glory, hollow victory, fabricated foreign threats, fear which threatens us as a nation, shallow pride which feeds off fear, and mostly from the promises which have proven so deceiving these past ten years." Change "ten" to "four," and you get the idea. The rest of the essay is stunningly humble, and it is simply a call to be citizens with eyes and ears open, to allow that maybe the powerful are more concerned with keeping power than with admitting error. And it is horribly, frighteningly prescient. What people forget about Kerry's protest days is that he was defending the lives of soldiers and that he was right.

Kerry vs. Reagan: When Kerry faced down the Reagan administration in his dogged pursuit of the Contra-drug connection, he was a freshman Senator taking on one of the most popular Presidents in American history, Ronald Reagan. Instead of backing down from repeated threats to his political career, Kerry had his staff stay on the case like a viper injecting venom into your leg. They would have had to cut off his head in order to get him to stop, and he stayed on it until he revealed that the Reagan administration allowed the Contras to smuggle cocaine into the U.S. in order to fund their CIA-led "war" against the legally-elected Sandanistas in Nicaragua. (And thus helping to cause the crack epidemic.) Kerry was called a conspiracy theorist, said to be interfering with other drug cases, and impugned throughout the media. But the part that rarely got told is that he was right.

Kerry vs. Bush I: When Kerry went after the Bank of Credit and Commerce International, which was involved in laundering the Contra drug money, funneling money from the U.S. to Saddam Hussein (when he was our beloved dictator), and supporting illegal arms trade with terrorists and drug lords (including Afghanistan), it was his first chance to take on the Bush dynasty. When Bush I was in power, the administration and the CIA overlooked the crimes of BCCI, possibly because the bank was intimately involved in the financial dealings of the Bush family. Kerry had already kicked ass on the savings and loan scandals of the 1980s, so why not fuck with George H.W. Bush if 41 was fucking over the good of the country and the world? He brought down BCCI, and he cut off a vital funding source for terrorists. Again, Kerry was bucking the will of Democrats in Congress, as well as a Republican administration, in order to do what he knew was right.

Listen closely and tell anyone you know who is still thinking about voting for Bush: has Bush ever, personally, faced down anyone other than with a chant of "Drink, drink, drink"? Has he ever gone against someone who was really, truly powerful in order to place the good of the people above his own good? No. Heroes do that - they don't care what's in their way - they will face down evil, no matter how powerful. And they don't bother with those who are too weak to fight. It's why the latest news from Iraq fanned the fire: those in charge have screwed us over again, and Kerry's ready to bring the superhero costume out. Call him "the Winter Soldier."

Kerry's done a fuck of a lot more than pull a guy out of a river. And the fact that America doesn't know that says a great deal about how we negotiate our desolate political landscape.

http://rudepundit.blogspot.com /
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CitySky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 09:17 PM
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12. get involved!
Today I volunteered at the Morrison campaign (HQ in Clear Lake - I walked precincts in Pasadena and Deer Park today). It's a great bunch of folks. Keeps the spirits up.

www.morrisonfor22.com

And hang out here in the TX Forum. The people are great. :)
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Princess Buttercup Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 10:27 PM
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13. It is hard.
I was talking to someone today and then I noticed she had on a * pin--a gold one that kind of looked like a Texas Rangers badge. Ack.

So many people assume (Austin suburbs here) that of course we all "support the president." As if there isn't another choice. I see an awful lot of Kerry stickers when I'm in town but when I head for home they all disappear.

In my case, literally disappear--someone STOLE my nifty Kerry-Edwards magnetic bumper sticker right off my minivan. Grrr. They left the yellow ribbon though (guess that is considered ok). I'm not sure if it disappeared in Austin or in suburbia. I was parked downtown right by the governor's mansion Friday night. Maybe Gov. Goodhair himself stole my sticker.

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CoolOnion Donating Member (860 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 05:20 PM
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15. Fortunately, I never hear any pro-Bush crap
My co-workers are gay, I live in a Democratic precinct and my church crowd are *real* Christians, appalled by Bush's hijacking Christianity and cared that Bush and his crowd are trying to turn our country into a fundamentalist theocracy.

If you're surrounded by pro-Bush crap, listen to Air America on the internet, join a Democratic Club, and keep on bloggin'!
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 01:51 AM
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16. it's why I like to keep DU free of all "conservative viewponts"
it's my island of sanity in the midst of Bush-bootlicking Texas
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Frogtutor Donating Member (739 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 10:54 AM
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17. DU is my refuge...
Other than that, I just don't get out much! Seriously, though, I don't watch the news (I have an anxiety disorder, and I discovered that the news depressed me, and made my anxiety worse). I can get news on-line, and in print where I can decide what news I want to read. I don't socialize much, and when I do, politics are rarely discussed. About the only people I discuss politics with are my husband and my dad, and they both pretty much share my views.

About the only thing I'm confronted with daily is pro-Bush bumper stickers!
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