Intruders learn not to mess with Texans

[WriteDown]

Source: AP

DALLAS — When two gunmen smashed through the glass front door of her suburban Fort Worth home early Wednesday, Kellie Hoehn didn't think twice.

Confronted by a shotgun pointed at her face, the 34-year-old mother of two grabbed the gun, starting a struggle that ended with one intruder killed with his own weapon and another in the hospital.

"I wasn't going to let them get to my babies," she said, recalling the moment when she pushed up the muzzle of the shotgun, pointing it away from her children's rooms.

Although the intruders told her to keep quiet, she screamed for her husband. She told her 12-year-old son, who was awakened by the sound of the shattering glass, to get his 5-year-old sister and hide....

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Good for them! This could have turned out really tragic.

[DS1]

1. Yes, because being Texan makes all the difference

What a steaming pile of horseshit.

[Taverner]

2. Exactly. If a Nebraskan had done the same thing, would it make a difference?

[DS1]

3. If Texans are so bad ass, as this title suggests

Why can't two of them handle another at gunpoint?

It's shit like this which helps me hate that stupid fucking state.

[CashGap]

7. Amen...

If this 'loving couple' tried that Rambo crap in Chicago, DC, or NYC, they'd be in his and her prison jumpsuits.

Insanity.

[uppityperson]

10. Indeed, maybe it is only "Texan Women".

It's shit like this that helps me hate stupid fucking headline writers, think link is to Colorado newspaper.

[WriteDown]

17. Ever been at gunpoint?

You make it sound so simple. Most people couldn't do this regardless of where they are from.

[Taverner]

24. It's not that - its this idea that a Texan with a gun is some kind of Ubermensch

Is a Nebraskan with a gun not one?

What about a Puerto Rican or Alabaman with a gun?

Does the state you come from really make a difference on how you handle a loaded weapon?

[WriteDown]

25. I think it was just a catchy headline...

and I would think it is extraordinary regardless of state affiliation.

[fudge stripe cookays]

31. Just for the record,

we fucking hate you back.

[tammywammy]

35. This post reinforces just why

I love you fudge stripe cookays! :loveya:

[fudge stripe cookays]

36. Backatcha babe!

For the record, my brother was a hair's breadth from being at Luby's on that horrible day. And that event is part of the reason why Texans love their guns.

If he had been there that day, I would have been hoping for someone to take out Hennard. And I'm sick of assholes that come in this forum and talk about how much they hate the freaking state. Stay the fuck out if you hate it so much.

Yeah, I'm up here now, but I'm homesick as hell, even though the temperature is better for me.

[tammywammy]

39. Yeah, I get that

I don't think I could ever leave Texas. :)

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

5. I must admit...

The "Texans as uber-menschen" narrative is getting a bit shopworn. My experience is that Texans are just like Americans, only they are from Texas.

[WriteDown]

13. That is correct..

just a headline meant to grab readers.

[uppityperson]

6. act of 1 Texan ="Texans"? I agree, poorly written headline.

[WriteDown]

12. Its just a catchy headline....

based on on the state's advertising campaign. Need to relax a bit.

[CashGap]

4. One dead, one wounded, but nooooo charges

I didn't need to look to find out it's Texas.

I'll bet if "Kellie" had taken a round, someone would be jail.

"Private property" hysteria leads to more killing. When will it end. She couldn't have let them take the Wii and the $45 in the cookie jar and LIVE?

[WriteDown]

9. So you want to charge the people defending their

home and children? Seriously? :eyes:

[robcon]

11. Are you suggesting the homeowner SHOULD be charged?

Or are you saying the surviving intruder won't be charged? Why not?

[slackmaster]

14. There probably wouldn't be any charges filed if the same thing happened in California

That someone entered your home unlawfully and forcefully is a definitive defense for the use of deadly force in most states.

[CashGap]

16. It's a DEFENSE which would be used at a TRIAL

In California, I hope that they would still be arrested, charged, the children would get professional care, and they would have to PROVE that the killing was necessary. They'd have an arrest record and people would think twice before swatting someone in their house like a cockroach.

But in Texas? A pat on the back and "Wish we had more of 'em like you, we'd have less of 'em like them" and they are heros.

Sick.

[slackmaster]

18. I assure you I would swat someone who broke into my house like a cockroach

I wouldn't feel good about that, but I would feel good about keeping myself alive and healthy.

If someone has a definitive defense, why waste public money and resources putting them on trial?

[CashGap]

19. And further...

The kids only had a gun A.) because it was so easy to get and B.) because they were going into a home in TEXAS which meant they were VERY likely to be shot at.

If they were going into a home in DC (until a month or so ago when Bush's puppets changed the law), they would have NOT have had a gun because they wouldn't have been likely to FACE a gun and we would have one less dead, one less wounded.

[WriteDown]

20. You do know that D.C.....

had a massive amount of gun violence BEFORE the ban was overturned? right?

edited for just a plain bad sentence.

[slackmaster]

22. DC still has a massive amount of gun violence

In spite of the ban. Trying to demean the violence problem in Texas by comparing it to DC is laughable.

[slackmaster]

21. In other words, they made a different bad decision in Texas than they would have in DC

So what?

As I posted earlier, the same rules would have applied in California.

[WriteDown]

23. Maybe she should have layed down....

and just tried to enjoy the rape and told her daughter to do the same. Then they would've had an airtight case. :eyes:

[bluestateguy]

26. I'd have done the same thing

This loser didn't just break into her home, he broke in with a gun and threatened her family.

He got what he deserved.

And it's not up to the homeowner to prove that she is innocent. It is up to the authorities to prove that the shooting was unjustified, and if there is no probable cause to make that argument, then no charges will be filed.

[Xithras]

27. You misunderstand how prosecutions work.

Prosecutors are only allowed to file charges if there is evidence of a crime and a reasonable belief that a conviction can be assured. If a prosecutor files charges against someone without probable cause, the prosecutor can be charged with malicious prosecution and disbarred. The job of the PROSECUTOR is to determine whether or not a crime has occurred. If the PROSECUTOR believes that one has, the job of the JURY is to determine whether the prosecutor is correct.

By the way, this sort of thing happens in California with some regularity, and rarely results in charges. There was a bit of a flap among activists about two years ago when a homeowner camped out in a home he was renovating after it was robbed several times in Modesto. Halfway through the night a burglar broke in again, and the homeowner gunned him down. No charges filed. Why not? The burglar had a crowbar in his hand, and under California law a crowbar is a deadly weapon. Legally, he shot an armed man in his own home. It was questionable whether a crime had occurred, and clear that no jury was going to convict him of shooting down an armed man who had broken into his home at 3AM, so the prosecutors let it drop.

In almost every case in California where these sorts of things ARE prosecuted, it's because the homeowner has done something stupid. Like the guy in Elk Grove last year who caught several people breaking into his garage and proceeded to chase them down the street...shooting as he went and hitting several neighboring homes. He was prosecuted because 1) The intruders weren't in his home. 2) The intruders were unarmed. 3) Because he shot up his whole freaking neighborhood like an idiot.

[Xipe Totec]

15. Yours is the most assinine reply so-far

nice work.

[Hangingon]

28. Why should she?

[Xenotime]

30. Exactly. Texas still thinks they are the wild west.

Shoot first and ask questions later.

[BlueCollar]

32. I live in Texas

Trust me when I say that in many ways it still is. On the other hand some of the most decent people I know live here in Texas.

OK...so Texas gave you 41, 43, DeLay, Cornyn, Hutchison....oh shit...what have we done?

On a bright note Texas has given or gave you Ivins, Hightower, Ladybird Johnson, Ann Richards, Sam Rayburn....

and a whole mess of Texas DU'ers who aren't about to go down without a fight.

[fudge stripe cookays]

37. Don't forget...

Barbara Jordan and Bill Moyers.

And now, you have Leticia Van de Putte, David Van Os, and Lon Burnam. Plus, liberal celebs like Joe Ely who help out at the events.

I'm in Wisconsin now, but I'm a lifelong Texan, and I miss it. Texan DUers are some tough-skinned mofos. Not only do they have to deal with Republican assholes all around them, but fuckers from our own party expressing the opinions such as some of those above.

Some of us remember when it was a Democratic state. So piss on the rest of you. Hate it so much? Stay the hell out.

[BlueCollar]

38. Hey!!!!

Thanks for the chiming in. Miss ya!

M

:hi:

[bluestateguy]

8. "Cleanup in aisle 7"

"1 dead armed robber"

[blogslut]

29. Ignore the haters

The couple were unarmed. They took the weapons away from the criminals. They saved themselves and the lives of their children. I'd say that is damned outstanding - Texan or not.

[Hangingon]

33. Just an excuse for jerks to say they hate Texas.

[BrightKnight]

34. Never underestimate a mother protecting her children. - n/t