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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 04:22 PM
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repeat from Gen. topics thread - what we do about Delay's seat
OK, so he is quiting and the Texas GOP must run a WRITE IN campaign in order to defend his seat.

We know that the GOP is funding 99% of at least two Green Party campaigns elsewhere in an effort to dilute the democratic vote, especially with Rickie Santorum. I say that they gave us a great example of what WE NEED TO DO.
Let's find two folks willing to run a write-in campaign for the GOP seat. All they have to do is try to take some percentages away from the ann ointed GOP write-in person, and we can count that seat as ours.
But, this will take funding and a willing sacrificial lamb. AND someone who lives in DeLay's district.

fair is fair, no? Ane remember who we are dealing with. Texans elected G.W. Bush as governor, fer christ's sake. They can't be that smart, certainly not smart enough to figure out which write-in candidate to elect.

I live in Chicago and can't really see doing anything but $$ and moral support, (unless you guys write me in for his seat)
but who do we contact in the DNC and the Texas Dem party?
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:51 AM
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1. Hmmm.....
OK, I see what you're getting at, but coming into the Texas forum and insulting us isn't the way to get an idea launched. (Ane remember who we are dealing with. Texans elected G.W. Bush as governor, fer christ's sake. They can't be that smart...)
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 09:39 AM
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5. i was talking about the GOP in your state. heck. look at the mess we
are in up north.
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 10:46 AM
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16. I tend to think we sit back and win. If you MUST DO something, then you
can cast about for write in candidates for District 22. Preferably people with generic names (or, if you are feeling mean spirited, names that would be easily confused with "David Wallace" or "Shelley Sekula-Gibbs" or names that end with the surname "DeLay" or even "Bush").

It would be an interesting experiment to see if David Wallace would get more write in votes than, say, Gene Kelly, but I personally think that you should just sit back and enjoy Lampson's victory and, perhaps, choose another tight race and focus your efforts there. If you are looking for good races to channel your energy (and money) toward, may I suggest our statewide candidates Barbara Ann Radnofsky, Chris Bell, and David Van Os or Texas House candidate Juan Garcia or congressional candidate Ciro Rodriguez (or whoever emerges as the Democratic challenger to Henry Bonilla in re-drawn District 23).

If you feel compelled to round up additional write in candidates, here's the form: http://www.sos.state.tx.us/elections/forms/a2-8.pdf.
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 09:21 AM
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2. And people in Chicago
can't be that smart if they keep electing corrupt city politicians all the time.

See what trouble you get into when you trade in stereotypes?

Here are some facts to consider regarding DeLay's seat.

There are still some legal maneuvers that could conceivably get DeLay replaced on the ballot. (He could be replaced if he were appointed to a state office by the Gov.)

It costs over $3000 to register as a write in candidate. Are you willing to sacrifice $3000?

The Republicans already have two announced write-in candidates. It is doubtful that we could hurt them more than they have already hurt themselves.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 09:33 AM
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3. people in Chicago AREN'T that smart, because we keep
electing corrupt pols.

And not just city. County, state, heck it transcends party lines and the size of the electorate.
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 09:38 AM
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4. At least Texans know how to spot Bullshit
Even when it comes from Chicago Bulls.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 09:42 AM
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6. ? ? ? ?
You think it is a BAD idea to pull a "green party" santorum-styled, for a write in campaign?

why?

Or do you guys just plan on losing that seat anyway and refuse to try?
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 09:59 AM
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7. It is a waste of time and money
We have better thing to do.

The Republicans are self-destructing before our very eyes and you are suggesting that we get closer to the implosion. I can't see why we should.

With two republican write-ins and a Libertarian on the ballot, it will be almost impossible for the Republicans to hold that seat.

No point in fighting a battle you have already won.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 10:04 AM
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8. Boy, I wish I had your crystal ball. But, I guess
you are sure of yourself down there. Must be a texas trait.
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 10:17 AM
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9. So can you give an example of when a write-in won?
Have you ever seen it happen? What makes you think it could happen in Texas CD-22? Have you got some insight that the locals can't see?

It is not a crystal ball, it is history.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 10:35 AM
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12. duh, THAT IS NOT THE POINT
Man, oh, man.

Why do you think santorum is spending GOP money and funding a green party candidate for senate to run against him? to siphon off Dem votes.
Why do you think I suggest that you guys run a write in on the GOP side? BECAUSE THE GOP WILL GET ITS ACT TOGETHER, and buy off the less likely to win with a judgeship or some other office, leaving one GOP to run against the Democrat.


How hard is it to see that having more than one write-in, even a dem sponsored one, is not supposed to be or expected to be a winner, but someone who will take away GOP votes.
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 10:49 AM
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18. This is not a primary election
There will be no run off. The citizens of CD-22 will have a ballot with two candidates, one Dem. and one Libertarian. They will also have the option of writing in one of three Repubs. The candidate with a plurality will be the winner. The chances of ANY write-in candidate are so incredibly small that there is no reason to be concerned. But when the Republicans split the write-in vote three ways it turns into a three ring circus.

But if it makes you feel better, for $3125 I can get you a write-in candidate. I will need your check to clear by Aug 20. PM me for an address.
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 10:25 AM
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10. Here is a quote from yesterday's Houston Chronicle
"Thus his decision this week to take his name off the ballot — almost certainly surrendering the seat to Democrat Nick Lampson — is a conclusion to his congressional career that no one could have anticipated. Like a schoolyard bully, DeLay's bravado fell apart when confronted by authority."


http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/editorial/4106498.html
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 10:29 AM
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11. And the latest breaking news
The Republican machinery is supporting a THIRD write-in candidate.

How could we possibly screw the Republicans more than they are screwing themselves. Just sit back and enjoy the show.
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 10:39 AM
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14. I love the Jack Abramoff show
Every episode has kept me on my seat or laughing my ass off. Remember the episode when Abramoff said he wanted to grow up to be just like DeLay? That was frickin hilarious! And now he hear that recurring character Bob Ney has been canceled. I think the DeLay character is being killed on the show this fall too.
:rofl:

Sonia

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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 11:01 AM
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21. My V-chip filters such obscenity
I wouldn't want any children to see that kind of stuff.
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 01:04 PM
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23. Save your kids, but no reason you can't watch
You're an adult after all. Can you imagine what this will look like in re-runs in 2008?

Sonia
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 01:11 PM
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25. Sorry, I don't have cable
and the Abramoff show is on Pay Per View!:)
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 10:36 AM
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13. And in DeLay's own words
From a NRO article:

But at this point, the only way a Republican candidate will be on the ballot is as a write-in. “The poll shows that a write-in is doable, that it’s not impossible,” DeLay told me. “Certainly it’s an uphill battle, but it is doable.”

“Doable” is not the most optimistic assessment one might make, so I asked if DeLay is confident that a Republican will be elected. “No, I didn’t say that,” he told me. “I said that people in the 22nd District deserve a choice.”

“So are you confident?” I asked again.

“I’m not confident that I would win,” DeLay answered.

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MzU3ZDU4NTM0NzU5MDg1ZWU0YzI3ZDhjNDlmNDk5MzY=
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 10:41 AM
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15. the guy's under indictment. we are talking about
the GOP getting its act together and supporting ONE write in candidate.

what part of this is so unclear?

why are you content to have Rovian plans work against us, sitting and "watching", rather than expecting the worst and taking steps to avoid it? Why do you think Rove has handed our asses to us around the country so often? Because they are devious and they have ways of getting around problems, turning them into assets and using them as weapons.
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 10:51 AM
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19. See post #4 n/t
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 11:30 AM
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22. But the GOP is not getting its act together
They have several candidates in CD-22 who are all anxious to show that they are the looniest of them all. And they all dislike each each other. And they all want the honor of losing.

Nick Lampson has a fine organization and a lot of money. The chances of a write-in candidate beating him are as close to zero as anything gets in politics.
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 10:48 AM
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17. I tend to think we sit back and win. If you MUST DO something, then you

can cast about for write in candidates for District 22. Preferably people with generic names (or, if you are feeling mean spirited, names that would be easily confused with "David Wallace" or "Shelley Sekula-Gibbs" or names that end with the surname "DeLay" or even "Bush").

It would be an interesting experiment to see if David Wallace would get more write in votes than, say, Gene Kelly, but I personally think that you should just sit back and enjoy Lampson's victory and, perhaps, choose another tight race and focus your efforts there. If you are looking for good races to channel your energy (and money) toward, may I suggest our statewide candidates Barbara Ann Radnofsky, Chris Bell, and David Van Os or Texas House candidate Juan Garcia or congressional candidate Ciro Rodriguez (or whoever emerges as the Democratic challenger to Henry Bonilla in re-drawn District 23).

If you feel compelled to round up additional write in candidates, here's the form: http://www.sos.state.tx.us/elections/forms/a2-8.pdf.

(sorry for the dupe; I originally posted this in the wrong place).
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 10:54 AM
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20. Juanita said she would run if a certain county commissioner ran
And I know she loves a circus. For a donation of $3125 I'll bet she would run!
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 01:07 PM
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24. Wait a minute
Does this help us? I know a lot of people who would vote for Juanita. She rocks! She'll take votes away from Lampson and not the dickheads running as repukes.

Love Juanita but want her to stay working for Nick.

sonia
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bryanin22 Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 01:42 PM
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26. I wouldn't vote for Juanita
She's way too conservative for my tatstes. She grounded me for a whole week when I dyed my hair purple when I was 17.
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 01:50 PM
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29. Welcome aboard
Did you go to a competitor's shop to get you hair dye?
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 02:09 PM
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30. Welcome to DU bryanin22!
Wouldn't vote for your own Mom - now what kind of kid are you? You better tell her you would. You're never too old to get a whopping. :evilgrin:

Sonia
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 01:43 PM
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27. I think she was just joking
http://www.brazosriver.com/index.html#aug8a

But what the hell, it's a circus, You can't keep the children out!
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 04:43 PM
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31. She shouldn't joke about running -- we need candidates as good as she'd be
It's just that we don't need 'em running in races where we already have a great candidate as the party's nominee.
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 01:49 PM
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28. Juanita is one of those we DON'T want running. If we wanted another write
in candidate, we'd want someone who would split the crazy person vote. If I thought we should encourage additional write in candidates, which I don't, I'm thinking we'd want someone with a "Reverend" at the front of his name and a "DeLay" or a "Bush" or a "Reagan" or a "Wallace" or a "Sekula-Gibbs" at the end of his name.
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