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fryguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 07:15 AM
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if the police ask will you let them search your bag?
are you willing to give up your Six Amendment right and allow the police to preform warrant-less searches on whomever they want? or, if asked, will you resist (non-violently, of course) this blatant trampling of privacy rights in the name of "protection" and "security"?
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 07:33 AM
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1. Not without probable cause
of which they will have none.
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 07:36 AM
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2. I don't mind having my bag searched
if I'm at a governmental building or court, or other place where security is a bit tougher. But I'd be damned if I let them search my bag on the street without provocation, without reason, without some sort of motive.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 08:01 AM
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4. I have no problems with going on mass transit with them
searching as long as they do it fairly.
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fryguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 08:25 AM
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7. what does "fairly" mean?
randomly? even if they "randomly" select people, do you really beleive that the search of a 50 year old white woman would be conducted in the same manner as the 20 year old man with dark skin?
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sshan2525 Donating Member (311 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 07:54 AM
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3. I have nothing to hide..........
but that's just me.
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Caution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 08:18 AM
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5. Someone missed the point apparently
Edited on Fri Jul-22-05 08:35 AM by Caution
The reason the 6th amendment exists is to protect your rights, not to protect the rights of those who would commit criminal acts. YOu would voluntarily waive your rights? How about your first amendment rights? How about 2nd? How about the right to vote? The thing that makes this country great are those very rights. If you don't feel safe taking a subway then don't take the subway. But don't give up your rights as an American.

(or...I missed the sarcasm in the post!) :)
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 11:01 AM
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11. So the government can put a camera in your bedroom then? NT
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Village Idiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 08:22 AM
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6. Never.
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MadAsHellNewYorker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 09:00 AM
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8. Please call 311 and complain about this unconstitutional policy
Its one way to get our voice heard!
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 09:05 AM
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9. If the search is only because I am using public transportation.
I have no problem with letting them search my bag prior to my accessing public transportation. They do it before I get on a plane and I support that. If I am walking down the street I have a right to privacy. If I am choosing to use a public transport system they have a right to try to secure the system.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 11:02 AM
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12. "They have a right to secure the system" Huh?
Edited on Fri Jul-22-05 11:03 AM by K-W
What right is that exactly?
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fryguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 02:18 PM
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14. "secure the system"
do you really believe that randomly checking people's bags in the subway will do anything to keep a terrorist from attacking? even assuming that a bomber is stopped by police, who open his bag and find a bomb, what are they going to do? arrest him? what will the terrorist do? blow the bomb, and the cops, and all the people around him/her up. doesn't stop the attack, just changes the location....

the only thing random searches will do is cause people to be arrested for things like drug possession based on what amounts to unlawful searches . . .
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 10:56 AM
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10. No. This is classic "standing on a brick to kick a duck in the ass". . .
and I'll call it that if/when this shit happens to me on the NYC subway. I'll probably wear a button as well that reads "No, you can't have my rights, I'm still using them"

Assholes.


:evilfrown:
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 11:04 AM
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13. If I am going to work, I have no real choice.
If time wasnt an issue, id probably just walk to the next station if there was one near.
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