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TaleWgnDg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 12:18 AM
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knowthyneighbor.org list names & addresses who signed anti-gay petition
Edited on Fri Dec-23-05 01:00 AM by TaleWgnDg
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The names and addresses of those who signed the Massachusetts ballot petition that oppose same-sex marriage in Massachusetts have been posted as promised on the internet by www.knowthyneighbor.org/index

As knowthyneighbor.org says on its website:

    "The names and addresses represented on this website were collected by VoteOnMarriage.org as part of the Initiative Petition Process and have been verified by the state Elections Division. They are part of the public record and were provided to us by the Secretary of the Commonwealth, William Galvin."
    http://www.knowthyneighbor.org/thelist.php

This anti-same-sex marriage ballot (initiative) Petition #05-02 entitled, the Constitutional Amendment to Define Marriage, reads as follows:

    "When recognizing marriages entered into after the adoption of this amendment by the people, the Commonwealth and its political subdivisions shall define marriage only as the union of one man and one woman."

This ballot petition/question, if it becomes part of our Massachusetts constitution, would make several different classes (groups) of people regarding marriage:

1.) Those same-sex couples who were legally married prior to this amendment becoming effective (if it does),
2.) Those same-sex couples who cannot be legally married after this amendment becomes effective (if it does),
3.) All opposite-sex couples who were legally married prior to this amendment becoming effective (if it does) and all opposite-sex couples who can be legally married after this amendment becomes effective (if it does), and
4.) There is a potentiality that such an amendment, if it does become effective, may over-turn many other areas of family law and related matters regarding domestic partnership benefits, healthcare benefits, child custody, child visitation, adoption, etc.

And, this amendment, if it becomes effective, does not make allowances for same-sex "civil unions" in Massachusetts.


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merbex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 08:15 AM
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1. My husband's youngest brother and his wife signed it- needless
to say we won't be speaking to them again except to let them know how we feel being related to bigots and pseudo-nazis IF we are so unfortunate to ever run into them

AND 1 cousin out of 101 first cousins that my husband can lay claim to

Thankfully,not one member of my family signed it; I'm now working my way through 2nd cousins with my mother on the phone while she supplies the last known town where they live

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TaleWgnDg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 04:42 PM
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2. How sad, merbex, re husband's youngest brother and cousin . . .
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How sad, merbex, re husband's youngest brother and cousin . . . :grouphug: . . . however, are they truly aware of the legal impact of this amendment? Are they able to cut through the emotion that this may evoke such as in a religious manner? do they twist it somehow in "morality" (read: religion)? Maybe if they were better informed and knew facts? Just a suggestion.

1.) Did they sign the anti-same-sex marriage ballot petition knowing what they were signing? Was it bait and switch? Fraud?
http://knowthyneighbor.org/fraud.html

2.) Are they aware how the ability to marry impacts same-sex couples, their children, and the rest of their families?
http://www.glad.org/rights/Marriage_v_CU_chart.pdf
http://www.glad.org/rights/PBOsOfMarriage.pdf
(.pdf format, AdobeReader® required)

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merbex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 05:44 PM
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3. Knowing my youngest brother-in-law,he was probably holding the
clipboard

His daughter attends a parochial school and I have heard from others that he and his wife are quite active in their church /school community

My husband and I left the church in the early 90's and that decision did not go over well with my inlaws.

The family I married into, from the very beginning of my marriage,feels that they have the right to meddle in the business and private lives of others (and have done so frequently.) The youngest is simply the most extreme of the bunch

He disgusts me
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 10:14 PM
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4. k&r
I did a slow burn doing my job as a town elector, certifying the anti-civil rights petitions.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 10:17 PM
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5. Stupid question
In a Boston Globe op-ed - http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=158x7384 - John Bonifaz calls Galvin to the carpet, saying there was fraud in the way the signatures were gathered.

Yet there has yet to be one post against it.
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