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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 10:13 AM
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Same-sex marriage ban approved in Louisiana
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/09/19/louisiana.same.sex.marriage.ap/index.html
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The amendment also would prohibit state officials and courts from recognizing out-of-state marriages and civil unions between homosexuals.
Voting machines delivered late to some polls

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The article I read yesterday said only 27% of the voting public actually voted.

This type of defeat for dems is not good and shows how mobilizing the dem base is important. Also, I don't understand why this was not on the Nov 2 ballot instead of now.

And they did not get voting machines to New Orleans until noon which is where the gay community is concentrated

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State director of elections Frances Sims said at least 59 precincts did not have voting machines when polls opened because officials with New Orleans' clerk of court's office failed to meet drivers who tried to deliver the machines earlier that morning. The problem was solved by midday.

Julius Green, 58, said he went to his polling place in New Orleans' Bywater neighborhood about 10 a.m. and found no voting machines -- just a crowd.

"This is ridiculous," Green said. "It makes people feel that their vote don't count."
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 10:22 AM
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1. just shows how most people don't CARE....except the fundies.....
...who're scared shitless of homosexuals and all libruls in general...oh except for the DINO's we have in office...ahh well...never figured my vote against it would matter in the slightest...same shit different day. :nopity:
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bkcc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 10:31 AM
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2. Shocking!
And here I was under the impression that Louisiana was such a progressive state....

Next thing you know, they'll be outlawing the teaching of evolution in Alabama.

</sarcasm>
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Phil214 Donating Member (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 06:34 PM
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7. Louisiana a Progressive State
Not really. New Orleans is tolerant, but its government is all screwed up (though I understand Mayor Ray Nagin is making an effort to change things).

The state is highly regionalized. New Orleans itself, of course, is hedonistic and liberal. The suburbs pretty conservative. Acadiana <1> is a toss-up. Sometimes they go Democratic, but mainly on economic issues. Social issues..well, you can pretty much count on them to follow the Catholic Church line as a whole (conservative on abortion and same sex marriage, but liberal on alcohol and "lassez le bon temps roulet",did I spell that correctly? <2>).

The rest of the state? It's JUST LIKE Mississippi! (mainly the so-called Florida Parishes <3> and North Louisiana)

FOOTNOTES FOR OUR OUT-OF-STATE LURKERS


<1>Acadianathe bonafide cajun country in SW and S Cent La. Roughly extending from Houma in S. Cent. La to the SW border at the boundary of Texas, extending northward west of the Mississippi River to just south of Alexandria, in the center of the state. The unofficial capital of Acadiana is Lafayette - 50 miles west of Baton Rouge.

<2> Can't you tell I am NOT originally from Acadiana? <grins> That just goes to show you that not all of Louisiana is Cajun, or even swampland. I myself grew up in Western Mississippi....uh...NORTH LOUISIANA.

<3> North Louisiana is the entire northern part of the state, generally north of Alexandria. The "Florida Parishes" are basically the Parishes (counties) through which Interstate 12 passes, northward to the Mississippi Line.
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Phil214 Donating Member (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 06:40 PM
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8. Speaking of Mississippi...
This is off topic, but suffice to say that even in that state, it's not all monolithic rah-rah Bush (see the Mississippi page for more)
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Not Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 10:31 AM
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3. Does anyone else smell something bogus here.
As I understand it, some of the drivers who were hired for the day didn't show up... but strangely only those who were to deliver machines to New Orleans precincts.

(Tin-foil mode on:) Any chance they were pub, fundie, RWers who had planned this in advance?
(Tin-foil mode off)
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 10:35 AM
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4. did the voting machines do the voting?

or was the people's vote counted properly?

are there that many religiously insane people in the state to ban gay marriage?

didn't the gays in the state vote? or were their votes counted.

it's so hard to believe that a whole state is religiously insane.

(I know, I know, the bloody media has powerful propaganda and the faux christian preachers preach powerfully........ but....)
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amazona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 11:56 AM
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6. not everyone could vote
I couldn't vote. I was evacuated a long distance because of Hurricane Ivan and unable to return in time. I doubt I was the only one.

Many gay people in New Orleans were unable to vote because the voting machines were not there when they arrived at the polls.



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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 10:45 AM
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5. it is absurd that one group of people can decide what
another group of people "is allowed" to do with their lives and property, as if we are children or wards of the state. I cannot imagine the anger they would feel if somehow we were to enact legislation stating that we were defending marriage from "monsters" who have green eyes, and that we had to defend "family values" from terrible people with non-brown eyes, and that if you don't have blue eyes, you can't get married to the person you love.

What kind of fucked up "moral" values are that? And how is that different from not only denying "marriage" but also denying civil unions? The most absurd thing about this whole issue is that they do it on the basis of "morality" and on the basis of "tradition", but in practice it is the vilest form discrimination and bigotry, and we merely want to legislate our preservation of the tradition of discrimination and bigotry.

I don't hate America - I just hate Americans like that.
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