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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 09:47 AM
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I HAS A QSTN!
Now that nearly every state is in play, will they cut us a break? Will they stop nagging us now? You know, the old, "I'm sick of that small/insignificant/white/rural/!@#$* state deciding who our president will be".

Probably not. Oh well.





Of course, that assumes that we retain our first in the nation status.





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9119495 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 10:55 AM
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1. No. If Clinton wins...we are toast.
If Obama wins, we're safe.
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IA_Seth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:22 AM
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2. Fear Monger!
Ha ha.

Honestly though, I think we are probably ripe for the pickings either way. Unless we have a very strong group in the state CC, and a governor who will back us up, I can see some major changes in 2012.

We become a LOT more vulnerable if we (as dems) lose the GE this year.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:46 AM
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5. You do realize that the nominee has control of what happens at the national convention don't you?
bah - we can discuss this through PMs if you want.

Let's just say that 2004's egos still piss me off :banghead:
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IA_Seth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:09 PM
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6. Well yeah..
I just really don't believe we are any safer with Obama as the nominee than we are if Clinton were to win.

Either way I think we are F'd. I think we'll have to fight tooth and nail to remain first in any presidential nominating procedures, and it's going to take a group with stiff backbone and a respect for tradition.

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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:21 PM
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7. Fair enough - I'd just like Iowa to go in to the convention w/out
a target on it's back.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:26 AM
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3. Simple answer is NO - every state wants to be first
And all will keep bitching until they are.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 01:32 PM
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8. I heard a historian on the public radio talking about this.
She said that, ironically, most states didn't care about being first back in the 70's.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:40 AM
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4. If Hillary Clinton is the nominee all caucuses - not just Iowa's - are over
And considering her performance here in Iowa - our first in the nation status is out.

She has made that clear as have all the people speaking on her behalf.

Also, Howard Dean and his AMAZING 50-state strategy will be gone too.



With the contest heading toward convention every delegate counts.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:10 PM
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9. Dude, you take a more pessimistic outlook than even me!
Edited on Wed Mar-05-08 02:29 PM by progressoid
I'm kinda expecting to lose Fist status. But all caucuses out?

I fear you may be right about Dean though.



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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:11 PM
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10. I know and I totally broke Cornfield's Law to even state my opinion
But I fear (after listening to Senator Clinton and Terry Mc yesterday and today) that's what will happen! :scared:

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4dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:07 AM
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12. Quit supporting the DLC
You continue to list more and more reason why Hillary and the DLC she represents needs to be defeated in these primaries..
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Vet31203 Donating Member (280 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:16 AM
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11. awww
thats so cute!
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