Out of district $$$: Duckworth=97%; but SURPRISE Cegelis =78%

[wndycty]

According to today's Chicago Sun-Times 97% of Tammy Duckworth's money came from outside of district, with her only reporting two weeks worth of contributions its not surprising. However I was shocked by the fact that 78% of Cegelis money came from outside of the district. Given the way that Cegelis supporters want to bitch and moan about how much of Duckworth's money comes from outside of the district I would like to know where they draw the line? Is over 78% acceptable, but 97% is not? While I would love to see Tammy get more money from within the district (I think her 1st qtr numbers will show an increase with in district money), I just find it hypocritical for her to be criticized by Cegelis supporters when Christine also gets over 3/4's of her money from outside of the district.

http://www.suntimes.com/cgi-bin/print.cgi?getReferrer=http://www.suntimes.com/output/elect/cst-nws-cong27.html

[mopinko]

1. not an argument that i ever made.

i have no problem with contributions for national office coming from party members anywhere. the problem i have is with who the contributors are and what they think they will get for their money. christine's money is from the grassroots. from democratic voters. her average contribution is about $200. and i presume these numbers are coming from the last quarter, after this race became a cause for piss off, pissed on dems everywhere. i'm sure the percentage was a lot lower in the previous quarters.
tammy's money comes in buckets from lobbyists and fat cats. what is her average? must be pretty large for it to rain down so heavy.

[Gary Kleppe]

2. For what it's worth...

...the numbers cited by the Sun-Times include only contributions over $200, which are required to be itemized on FEC reports.

For Duckworth this is the lion's share of her money. But a far greater share of Cegelis' money comes from donors giving smaller amounts which are not itemized, and the great majority of these are in-district.

[mlkisler]

3. DuPage County

Ummm.....This is DUPAGE COUNTY! You know, the county where there hasn't been a Democrat elected to a county wide office in over 50 YEARS (if ever)!

There is very little Dem. money to be had, here. Most the rich trial lawyers who live here make their Democratic donations to Chicago Democrats, through their law firms in the City. Out here, where they live, they donate to the local REPUBLICANS! (Talk about hypocrisy....)

So it's no big surprise that Democrats have to go outside the district, much of which lies in DuPage County, to raise funds. But 97%??? That's unprecedented!

And then you have to take into account how much FREE PUBLICITY Duckworth has thumbed her nose at, by refusing to even return phone calls (let alone actually ATTEND the forums) to in-district groups holding candidate forums.

Now, you have to ask yourself, "If CANDIDATE Duckworth won't even return phone calls for FREE in-district publicity events, how responsive will REPRESENTATIVE Duckworth be to her constituents, if elected???"

[wndycty]

4. So 78% out of district is acceptable to you?

Its acceptable to me, however I'm not the one criticizing ANYONE for out of district support. So the question again is for anyone who would have a problem with out of district support is 78% acceptable? Yes/no question. I'm not going to be a HYPOCRITE I think its fine, but for those who have gone on record as criticizing Duckworth for out of district $$$ is over 3/4 of Cegelis money from out of district acceptable? Lets be consistent.

[mopinko]

5. nobody made that complaint, as far as i remember

you don't seem to have understood the issues in this situation. hmmm. but it suits your purpose to frame our issues for us. hmmm.
the fox school of debate rides again.

[wndycty]

7. It appears to matter to Christine's campaign manager. . .

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=150x10779#10825

[wndycty]

8. Another post about Duckworth's outside of district money

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=150&topic_id=10779&mesg_id=10866

[mopinko]

9. i don't think that anyone is saying "where" in the

geographical sense of the word. they mean "from who" and "with what purpose". you construe things to suit yourself.
the issue is- who is the candidate who will represent the interest of people of the 6th, and who will represent the interests of the rich and powerful.
how about looking at the size of average donations? christine's are small donations from average people. the kind of people who are sick of being sold out by the pink tutu democrats.

[wndycty]

14. "Construe thing to suit yourself" ? Oh so now I'm making up shit?

Did Kevin put a post comparing Cegelis and Duckworth out of district money or not? Or did he compare who was giving? It seems like you are the one making shit up.

[Gary Kleppe]

6. The issue here

Cegelis has significant local support within the district. Duckworth does not. Everything else is noise.

[Norquist Nemesis]

10. Yes, the machine is humming in DuPage

and people outside of it have no idea of how deep the corruption goes. The lawyers would giving to local Cons aren't stupid...they're preserving their livelihood.

When we moved to this area in '95, I didn't register to vote for four years because I knew it could have jeopordize my employment. I've watched the good ole boys in action.

I'm in the 13th district so I don't have a dog in the fight (so to speak) as far as Cegelis/Duckworth. But my opinion is that Immanuel and other so-called Democratic Leaders from DC should have built upon Cegelis foundation. Give her assistance on HOW to run a campaign effectively and support her financially. It's :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: to intefere as they've done and direct already scarce resouces away from Cegelis.

They're only serving to give ammunition to the Cons...not to mention saving money for them. Put the money with Cegelis and make the Cons have to pony up to match it.

[mopinko]

11. they have really tried to squash the local party

it's the heavy handed leaning on people that is making me :banghead:
cegelis deserves a medal for what she has done for all the local party organizations in the 6th. people who have done nothing but pass petitions for losers for 20 years are fired up and working. well, they will see on march 21ST.

[Norquist Nemesis]

12. Hope so

If and when Cegelis wins, everyone should slam Immanuel's office with calls that they'ld better damned well give 200% support for her in every way.

Keep up the good work! :)

[mopinko]

13. she will win

she got game. thanks. it feels really good to be out on the street, actually changing the landscape.

[newyawker99]

15. Hi mlkisler!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast: