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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 05:45 PM
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Apparently it's only 50 - minus Florida in 2008 for Howard Dean and the DNC!
For those of you not keeping up with current events:

Over the weekend the Democratic National Committee has decided to strip the Florida Democratic Party of its delegates to the national convention in Denver in 2008.

This effectively disenfranchises 4.3 MILLION registered Democrats in Florida from participating in their own party's primary and it is in no way the fault of Florida Democrats!

The reason for stripping us of our delegates and effectively silencing our 4.3 MILLION Democratic votes is because the Republican controlled State Legislature and Republican Governor chose to move our primary up from March to January 29th.

Even if all 42 Democrats in the State House voted no it would not matter because the Republican Party has a substantial undefeatable majority. The same is true for the State Senate.

No matter what we did, we could not have prevented them from changing our Presidential Preference Primary date.

Yet the DNC, knowing that this was beyond our control, chose to punish Florida Democrats anyways.

This is like getting a parking ticket because your Republican brother took the car without your permission and parked it illegally. It's not something we did as Democrats, yet WE are being punished for it

Howard Dean ran for DNC chair on the promise of 50 states in 2008. Now apparently it will be 50 minus Florida or 49 in 20088.

One of the chief complaints of our Founding Fathers was "taxation without representation". Well I will certainly remember that complaint the next time the DNC calls me and asks for a donation.

I'll have to say: "I'm sorry but if my vote doesn't count with you, I'm not going to send you my money either. I'm saving my money to give directly to candidates that I back or I'm sending it to Tallahassee instead of giving it to the DNC, the DCCC, or the DSCC."

Stripping Florida of its delegates is a surefire recipe for losing the White House in 2008. You have just told the 4.3 MILLION Democrats in fourth largest state in the Union that their votes don't count. Of the three larger states - New York, California, and Texas, their electoral votes are already safely decided - California and New York are safe "blue" states while Texas is a safe "red" state.

Florida is the largest battleground state in the Union -with 27 electoral votes or 10% of the total required for a victor - that is not safely in either Republican or Democratic hands. And the DNC has just told us we don't count and we ought to be punished for things that are beyond our control.

Shame on you DNC!

Disgusted in Orlando,
Doug De Clue
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 06:08 PM
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1. The dems in fl could
have voted no anyway. Now they say it would have made no difference and now they are victums. They could have spoke up.
Disgusted for a different reason in Fl
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jmp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 09:50 PM
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2. My solution is simple.
I'm voting for Howard Dean in Nov '08.

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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 01:58 PM
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4. Florida does not permit write-ins for non-candidates
They will only count the votes of write-in candidates who register as write-in candidates.
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ThisIsMyCountry Donating Member (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 11:43 PM
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3. Also...
The issue is not whether the legislature moved up the date, it is my understanding that the State Party had the ability to hold their own event (ie a party run caucus) at a later date after the pre-window. However, the party refused to do that. They do not have to use the state-run event as their first determining step. The leadership in the Florida Democratic Party is to blame for this.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 11:09 PM
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5. Florida is dead wrong on this issue.
They are fighting a battle in which the DNC is correct. So they are fighting based on lies.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/1496

The DNC has a Supreme Court ruling behind them.
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