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monarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 06:01 AM
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I am completely sympathetic to Sen. Lieberman.
Edited on Thu Jun-22-06 06:49 AM by monarch
His position yesterday was the only one he could take and I hope that he finds solace in the support of his new best friends. The problem with yesterday is not his Iraq position--I really do think that his vote and speech were "principled," -- as well as the only politically viable one. The problem is that it is one in a long line of Joe's actions that have given aid and comfort to the Republicans. Years ago--before Newt--the US Senate WAS a deliberative, collegial body and senators could base their votes on "principle." The Newt revolution changed everything to an us-against-them mentality, and, unfortunately, Joe has joined "them."

My only question now is: If Joe's support gets him any concessions at all from the "other side," why, on earth did he let them allow Santorum, of all people, to give a speech praising him?
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 10:01 AM
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1. Sorry, it was not the only position he could take
Hillary Clinton was pro-war as well, but she at least came out in support of the Reed proposal and has not been afraid of criticizing Team Bush for mismanagement of the war. Lieberman has come out & said that any criticism of Team Bush helps the enemy (meaning, it's treason)

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REACTIVATED IN CT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 11:35 AM
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2. was it Hillary who said that those on the other
side of the aisle were engaging in "sloganizing"? That is a good description. Her speech was good, but her delivery style is a little flat IMO.
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wordpix2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 08:57 AM
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3. Lieberbush opposed both Dem resolutions on Iraq so why doesn't he join the
repukes? Read this:

Dear MoveOn member in Connecticut,

This week Democrats in the United States Senate kick-started a long-needed debate over Iraq. Two Democratic resolutions both point to the same thing: U.S. troops need to start coming home from Iraq.

There has been a growing consensus about Iraq among Democrats nationally, in Connecticut and in Washington with one notable exception: Joe Lieberman. If you haven't yet, please get involved in the campaign of Ned Lamont by clicking on the link below. The primary is only six weeks away.

http://nedlamont.com/page/s/now

Because you live in Connecticut we wanted to make sure you knew exactly what Joe Lieberman has been up to on Iraq.

In this week's debate, Lieberman went out of his way to undermine Democratic efforts to push for a resolution to the mess in Iraq.

He was the first Democrat in the Senate to oppose both resolutions calling for an Iraq exit.

He is so helpful to Republicans that he was called upon to speak and introduced by a Republican that the Hartford Courant yesterday morning described as, "the Bush administration's chief Senate spokesman on military matters."1

Following his remarks cheering the mess in Iraq, Lieberman was praised by Republicans. Ultra-conservative Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA) said that Lieberman was "incredibly articulate."

Beyond his tragic misjudgment about Iraq, this sort of collaboration between Lieberman and Republicans does one thing: it undermines all Democrats. Our democracy needs an effective counter-weight to Republican excesses. That is one important role the Democrats play. Joe Lieberman undermines that.

The Senate Democratic primary is just six weeks away. This is a critical crossroads for our country. You can play a special role as a resident of Connecticut. Please get involved.

http://nedlamont.com/page/s/now

Thanks for all you do.

–Tom, Carrie, Eli, Natalie and the MoveOn.org Political Action Team
Friday, June 23rd, 2006

Source:

1. "Lieberman Goes It Alone," The Hartford Courant, June 22, 2006.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 02:38 AM
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4. Oh...I get it...tongue in cheek...
Good one.
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MeDeMax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 05:25 PM
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5. I am not sympathetic to him
He undermined Gore's campaign in 2000 by staying in his senate race.

In his own words, the repubs threw a few earmark bones at him and he sold out all americans in
the healthcare bill that John McCain called "No lobbyist left behind".

Joe must go !
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