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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:36 PM
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CALL SHELLEY ASAP. HE'S RESIGING. TELL HIM NOT TO.
http://c1.zedo.com/jsc/c1/ff2.html?n=162;c=253/1;s=216;d=16;w=720;h=300;t=UndertoneNetworks.com

Secretary of State Kevin Shelley was to announce his resignation Friday amid investigations into his handling of federal election funds, questionable campaign contributions and bad behavior, a source close to Shelley told The Associated Press.

Shelley, 49, was leaving his $131,250-a-year post before having to testify later this month at a Legislature audit committee hearing about his handling of millions of dollars in federal elections funds.

A source close to Shelley who requested anonymity said he would announce his resignation at a news conference outside his San Francisco home.

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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:38 PM
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1. what is Shelley's phone #?
If you have a # I will call. I will even take an email address to write to should you have one.

thanks.

:kick:
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:44 PM
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3. His phone number: 916 653 7244
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CAcyclist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 12:32 PM
Response to Reply #1
18. Contact here instead of Sec. of state's office:


Olson, Hagel & Fishburn
555 Capitol Mall
Suite 1425
Sacramento, CA 95814
(916) 442-2952

Make checks out to Legal Defense Fund .
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:39 PM
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2. How do you want us to contact him? nt
nt
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CAcyclist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 12:31 PM
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17. Thst number is the Sec. of State office
They are understandably very leery about any partisan contact with the office. I would recommend contacting Shelley's accountants' office instead and pledge money.

Olson, Hagel & Fishburn
555 Capitol Mall
Suite 1425
Sacramento, CA 95814
(916) 442-2952

Make checks out to Legal Defense Fund .
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:47 PM
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4. Apparently he has already resigned, at least according to what I heard
Edited on Fri Feb-04-05 07:52 PM by Garbo 2004
on the radio, they said it was announced in SF. From an sfgate article:

Secretary of State Kevin Shelley resigned his post Friday afternoon after failing to successfully defend himself against charges of accepting tainted campaign contributions, mishandling federal voting act money and harassing subordinates, sources close to Shelley said.

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/02/05/shelley05.TMP

Edited to add quotes from Shelley's press conference in SF:

"I know I have done nothing wrong in the eyes of the law," Shelley said during a late afternoon news conference outside his San Francisco home, his wife, Dominique, at his side.

He said his resignation would be effective March 1. Struggling at times to fight back tears, Shelley said it was the hardest decision he had ever made.

"During the past several weeks and days, it has become clear to me that the tides of this storm were overtaking this office's very ability to function effectively for the people of California," he said.

Shelley said he was confident the various investigations looking into his activities ultimately would show he had done nothing wrong.
http://www.sacbee.com/state_wire/story/12235555p-13099490c.html
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:50 PM
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5. one word ...
shit ... shit ... shit ... shit ...

:kick:
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Albert Einstein Donating Member (241 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 01:07 AM
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9. His resignation is not effective until March 1
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Albert Einstein Donating Member (241 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 01:08 AM
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10. The most important point in the article
Shelley said he was confident the various investigations looking into his activities ultimately would show he had done nothing wrong.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 08:12 PM
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6. Why would he resign if he is innocent?
Edited on Fri Feb-04-05 08:13 PM by Freddie Stubbs
You would think that an innocent man would stand and fight for his reputation.
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lilimaj Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 12:13 AM
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7. THE BIG BROTHER
The reason for his resignation was simply lack of money. His defense fund was very low. Arnold and the Republicans have been planting dirt on him, since he ordered the removal of the e-voting machines due to security problems. The Republican money-machine wants the e-voting machines back, before the next California election. They want to make sure Arnold is reelected. Diebold is in their pocket. THE BIG BROTHER and CRIMES OF THE RIGHT books, both written by author HOPE NEWMAN expose the real facts behind the compassionate conservative $$$...
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 11:50 AM
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13. will he be better able to raise money if he resigns?
There is a federal investigation that won't go away if he resigns.
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Albert Einstein Donating Member (241 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 01:06 AM
Response to Reply #6
8. It's costing him a fortune to fight.
Everyone knows that. Please donate.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 11:48 AM
Response to Reply #8
12. He will still have legal bill regardless of his resignation
The fedw will still prosecute him regardless.
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CAcyclist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 12:28 PM
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16. Donations are very important





Money and ONLY money will make the other Democrats sit up and take notice and know that we are serious about
defending Kevin Shelley.

Money and ONLY money will make the republicans think twice about pursuing this, because if we raise enough
money for Kevin Shelley, he can go after the bastards that smeared him.



If you want to help donate to Kevin Shelley's legal defense fund, you can send donations to his accountants at:

Olson, Hagel & Fishburn
555 Capitol Mall
Suite 1425
Sacramento, CA 95814
(916) 442-2952

Make checks out to Legal Defense Fund .
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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 03:53 PM
Response to Reply #16
32. I agree. I'm sending in a check now.
I can't send much now, but something, anything, is better than nothing.
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CAcyclist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 12:21 PM
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14. I am putting you on my Ignore list nt
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 02:17 PM
Response to Reply #14
21. I suppose that is easier than admitting that you are wrong
;)
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 02:40 PM
Response to Reply #21
23. You regularly attack a lot of Democrats
Why? Just curious?
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 02:52 PM
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24. It would seem that we have something in common
I have little patience for public corruption, wheather it is committed by Dermocrat or Republcians. I find it rather disturbing that some DUers will insist in a person's innocence simply because of thier party affilation. Both parties have their share of crooks.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 12:46 PM
Response to Reply #24
29. thank the gods!
someone with an ounce of sense

I agree with you 10000% Freddie

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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 03:51 PM
Response to Reply #6
31. Ostracization of the sweeping kind of which he has been subjected
to cannot be fought by an individual. His stepping down is more about surviving than winning.

Plus, the last straw was that his mother was just put in intensive care.
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Gyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 11:11 AM
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11. I wouldn't lift a finger
to help this sack of shite. He's a demonstrable ass. I don't care what party he belongs to.

Gyre
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CAcyclist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 12:24 PM
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15. Then say goodbye to democracy
When you can't even figure out where your best interests lie, don't complain when this state mysteriously starts electing Republicans.

I am putting you on my ignore list too.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 06:12 PM
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39. "i am putting you on my ignore list"
There are few things more childish than publically annoucing you are putting someone on your ignore list.

Just do it and be done with it.

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CAcyclist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 12:49 PM
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19. Proof that this is a smear campaign


http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/01...

Direct evidence tying Shelley to any of the allegations his office faces has yet to surface


The Audit committee hasn't even hired any experts to review the evidence:
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/02...


Sacramento -- Legislative leaders decided Wednesday to postpone the sworn testimony
of Secretary of State Kevin Shelley by nearly three weeks, a tacit acknowledgement that
the management of their inquiry into Shelley's handling of federal voting funds has been
flawed.

The decision, at the request of newly hired independent counsel for Republicans and
Democrats, came one day before Shelley was expected to appear before the Joint
Legislative Audit Committee. Republican panel members did not hire a lawyer to help
them prepare for the proceedings until Tuesday afternoon.

"We asked the attorneys how much time they needed," said Senate minority leader Dick
Ackerman, R-Irvine. "They wanted time to review the evidence."

In recent weeks, many in the Legislature have privately questioned the wisdom of
demanding Shelley's appearance so early in the process, as well as the committee's
decision to move forward without first hiring investigators and lawyers with experience
in similar cases to guide the way.

Dani

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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 01:43 PM
Response to Reply #19
20. Links don't work for me. eom
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CAcyclist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 02:29 PM
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22. Try this - thanks for the heads up
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/01/26/MNG12B0HHB1.DTL

Direct evidence tying Shelley to any of the allegations his office faces has yet to surface.


http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/02/03/MNG6UB51PH1.DTL

Sacramento -- Legislative leaders decided Wednesday to
postpone the sworn testimony of Secretary of State Kevin
Shelley by nearly three weeks, a tacit acknowledgement that
the management of their inquiry into Shelley's handling of
federal voting funds has been flawed.

The decision, at the request of newly hired independent
counsel for Republicans and Democrats, came one day before
Shelley was expected to appear before the Joint Legislative
Audit Committee. Republican panel members did not hire a
lawyer to help them prepare for the proceedings until
Tuesday afternoon.

"We asked the attorneys how much time they needed," said
Senate minority leader Dick Ackerman, R-Irvine. "They
wanted time to review the evidence."
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 03:40 AM
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27. You're right, Freddie is wrong. This is a smear.
It's been nice voting in California.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 12:07 PM
Response to Reply #27
28. Innocent people usually don't resign when charged with wrongdoing
And the excuse the he is resigning because he is out out of money is BS. The investigation is still proceeding even though he is resigning:

Shelley Resignation Doesn't Bring End to Investigation

Feb 5, 2005 12:40 pm US/Pacific
SAN FRANCISCO (KCBS) Despite the resignation Friday of Secretary of State Kevin Shelley, the controversy swirling around operations of the office is far from over.

KCBS reporter Matt Bigler reports that both republicans and democrats are in agreement on what needs to happen next; what happened to the federal Help America Vote Act funds that Kevin Shelley is accused of mismanaging?

Democrat State Senator Jackie Speier. "There are hundreds of millions of dollars and what the federal government is going to be looking for is whether or not we have our act together, whether or not we are managing the funds properly," she said.

And there are similar concerns coming from state GOP Chairman Duff Sundheim. "From a statewide perspective we need to focus on where did this money go? So we believe this investigation should continue," he told KCBS.

more: http://www2.cbs5.com/topstories/local_story_036154116.html

I really don't know wheather Shelly is guilty or innocent, but he sure is acting like someone who is guilty.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 01:15 PM
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30. Post hoc ergo propter hoc nt
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 04:52 PM
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37. As, I said, it hasn't been proved to me either way
Edited on Mon Feb-07-05 04:52 PM by Freddie Stubbs
but he is acting like a guilty man.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 05:07 PM
Response to Reply #37
38. What happened to the presumption of innocence upon
Edited on Mon Feb-07-05 05:08 PM by sfexpat2000
which our legal system is founded?

I've never claimed to know if Shelley is innocent or guilty. I've said I believed he is being smeared and also, that he is entitled to due process.

Compare and contrast with the republican SOS in Washington state, The Rossi people are circulating a petition to have the SOS impeached. There's no talk or pressure to resign there.

It's not our job to determmine culpability. It's our job to back our guy until the courts determine right or wrong. By trying him in the press, we play right into the Repug hand. By assuming his guilt, we're shooting ourselves in our collective foot.

/spelling
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 06:35 AM
Response to Reply #38
40. The problem is he doesn't seem to want to stand and fight
He's resigning. Perhaps he thinks he can get a better plea bargin if he quits.
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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 03:59 PM
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33. He may feel that he IS guilty, not of breaking the law, but of other thing
when you have been subjected to massive smearing and ostracization from all sides (not one penny donated, for instance, by his fellow Dems), you begin to look at yourself and think there is something wrong with you. He did yell at people, was arrogant, etc. You begin to think it is your fault when you are ostracized, even if you know you did nothing fundamentally wrong.

That's why this smear tactic is such an effective thing. Rove and co. are experts at it. It's an ancient technique. Many people don't survive it. It is actually a noted cause of suicide in men over the age of 40. There are both deliberate and accidental ostracization, the latter comes from groupthink, etc. This is most likely a combination of both.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 04:51 PM
Response to Reply #33
36. Why have other Democrats ostracized him?
Did they pay off Barbara Boxer and Maxine Waters? :shrug:
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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 04:02 PM
Response to Reply #19
34. The head of that committee was so eager to proceed
because part of her district is Kern County, one of the 4 counties severely bummed that Shelley disallowed Diebold.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 02:49 PM
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25. I wish he had publicized he needed money on this board
or "The Daily Kos" before announcing he's resigning.

We would have helped.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 06:29 PM
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26. It was posted here early last week
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 04:33 PM
Response to Reply #25
35. There is also an action alert up at patrickhenrythinktank.org
Patrick Henry has the best action alerts on the web these days.

From the front page of that site.

PUT YOUR DONATIONS TOWARDS CAUSES AND LEADERS THAT SUPPORT YOU
NOT TO ORGANIZATIONS THAT WASTE YOUR MONEY ON SOCIALIZING.

Here are the current causes/leaders that need your donations:
From the front page of that site.
KEVIN SHELLEY: He has expended a great deal of his personal funds so that he can continue to fight for fair elections. If we lose him, we could lose California. If you want to help donate to Kevin Shelley's legal defense fund, you can send donations to his aacountants at:

Olson, Hagel & Fishburn
555 Capitol Mall, Suite 1425
Sacramento, CA 95814
(916) 442-2952

Make checks out to Legal Defense Fund.

JIM MCDERMOTT: Fighting for your right to know the truth has cost Jim over half a million dollars, and this amount is climbing. This is the man who went to Baghdad to try to stop this war that was based on a lie. He needs your support. Please consider donating at http://mcdermottforcongress.com/contribute.html.

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