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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 08:32 PM
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Edwards is doing GREAT. The "unflappable" Cheney is flapping tonight.
This is the most disconcerted I have ever seen Cheney in over 20 years of watching him.

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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 08:33 PM
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1. please fill me in...
i just can't watch him, I tried but he really makes me ill...
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 08:35 PM
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5. I've watched Cheney for over twenty years
in his various roles with the BFEE. He never cracks. This is the most he's ever been challenged directly in public.

For play by play see Skinner's debate threads.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 08:37 PM
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9. thanks blm....
I have been reading them as well. I should have counted the word lie in those threads. and sack of shit! lol!
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 09:30 PM
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22. Cheney has more than met his match. His defensiveness is showing. He
nor Bush are used to having Russert and the rest of the media whores fail to question them on their record. and paying them undue deference. It shows.

I can't stand Cheney's heavy, stressful breathing. Creepy!
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 08:34 PM
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2. Good, got to get under the shell. Make him weep John
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 08:34 PM
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3. I agree. Cheney is not braindead like AWOL, so this isn't as easy
for Edwards as it was for Kerry. But despite Cheney's clever little soundbites and twisted logic, Edwards is punching him to the floor. Good against evil is what we are witnessing tonight. Good will win.
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 08:35 PM
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4. Not according to a whole bunch of low-post count DUers
Sorry, I know it's not cool to point that out but it's kind of ridiculous tonight.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 08:37 PM
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7. But you are correct. Wish they would get locked asap.
However, just ignoring them makes them go away also.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 08:38 PM
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10. No kidding.
The Left Behind crowd crawled out of their pods.
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FlashHarry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 08:40 PM
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12. I dunno... I'm a high-count DUer, and I don't see it.
Edwards is on the defensive.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 08:45 PM
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13. Anyone who's been on Cheney alert for over two decades can see it.
.
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 08:36 PM
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6. I'm listening on Air America Radio
John Edwards is flawless, just stunning. Dick Cheney's voice is very monotone, flat. Low key, but you can really tell the hostility simmering under the surface.
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 08:38 PM
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11. there is hostility in Cheney's voice
that won't go ever well..

Cheney's negatives are already through the roof - he isn't helping himself here with those that have doubts about him.
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gasperc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 08:37 PM
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8. poisons making ricin
WTF is Cheney talking about where are these fucking factories

hey where is Edwards response!!!!!!!!

oh this will be the fucking story tomorrow!!!!!!!!!!

I'm going to start keeping a checklist!!!!!!!
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 08:47 PM
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14. This is great! Edwards is talking about Dick's record
in voting down truly helpful programs, like Meals On Wheels, Head Start, etc.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 09:09 PM
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18. News to most people, I'm sure.
Lord knows the media doesn't confront him.
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ChocolateSaltyBalls Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 08:48 PM
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15. My ears are telling me a vastly different story............
to me it sounds like Cheyney is whipping Edwards' ass.

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 08:50 PM
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16. I wouldn't trust your ears then. You don't know Cheney.
His monotone voice is deliberate and meant to mask his obvious lies. But, he's just off enough that Edwards can counter him.
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Waverley_Hills_Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 08:53 PM
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17. From what I saw in the first half, Cheney was doing pretty good...
..coming out the gate, Edwards sidestepped Gwen Eifels first question, and then it was donwhill, until I turned off the TV.

Cheney was pretty impressive...seemed more fact-based, more focused on Kerrys record, and Edwards was coming across as more repeating campaign talking poiints.

Maybe things improved in the second half for Edwards, but I think Cheney did pretty good on this one.
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 09:13 PM
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19. Edwards is Cheney's master in this ...
First, his concise and overwhelming attack against Halliburton that Cheney spent the next two or threee speaking opportunities to return to it, leaving the other issues totally unexplored.

Cheney left the direct charges of distortion unanswered.

Remember this: they spin things like "global test", distort it, hype it, act puzzled over it and the reason they do that is that the truth simply won't do.
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 09:18 PM
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20. He is not used to being in control, can hide it better than Puddinhead
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 09:24 PM
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21. during the foreign policy part
My teenage daughter blurted out why is Cheney so fidgety?!
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