Condi lying again on the Today Show

[JPJones]

Asked about the aluminum tubes - evades, "The Soviet Union had a nuclear capability 5 years ahead of schedule." It's not all like the Soviet Union, Condi.

Did you tell the President there were doubts about the intelligence? "Of course".

You said on CNN that the aluminum tubes only really suited for nuclear weapons programs and that you didn't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud. Do you regret saying that?
"You know what you know at the time. The fact is what you know at the time can affect what you say. What you learn later can not."

Maybe we should get her a subscription to the New York Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/03/international/middleeast/03tube.html?hp
But almost a year before, Ms. Rice's staff had been told that the government's foremost nuclear experts seriously doubted that the tubes were for nuclear weapons, according to four officials at the Central Intelligence Agency and two senior administration officials, all of whom spoke on condition of anonymity. The experts, at the Energy Department, believed the tubes were likely intended for small artillery rockets.

[bushwakker]

1. The fact that she's doing the shows tells me they are concerned n/t

[bluestateguy]

2. She's so overrated

Are we really supposed to be in awe of the supposed brilliance of this woman?

Sometimes I think all the hype about her is because, well...I better just leave it at that.

[suegeo]

13. She's a real national treasure, alright.

I remember millions of people running for their lives through the streets of New York City, as buildings and other "items" tumbled down on around them.

I remember craters in Pennsylvania, and the Pentagon up in flames.

I also remember who was in charge of National Security that day.

[indef]

3. I sure miss American television

Tell me, does she look as old and weary as she did before she had to make the rounds of all the talk shows in the summer?

[JPJones]

5. Her voice quivers when she lies n/t

[Radio-Active]

10. yes, I noticed that!

during her 9/11 commission testimony

[JPJones]

4. BTW - read the linked articel, it's the smoking gun on Iraq lying

Major piece in the NY Times today - 15 web pages long.

[Mikimouse]

6. This is the line that could and should haunt *

"One's statements are based on the best knowledge at the time..."

This line should be used to completely destroy * and his minions' allegations about any change of mind in the part of Kerry. I am firmly convinced that the information presented to the Senate and House was very skewed, and as a result many people voted for the IWR who, with proper information would have voted against it.

[JPJones]

7. Let me go back to Tivo the exact quote n/t

[JPJones]

8. Here's the exact quote

"You know what you know at the time. The fact is what you know at the time can affect what you say. What you learn later can not."

[Mikimouse]

9. And, dear Condi, what the bloody hell is that supposed to MEAN?

To me, it says that we shouldn't try and learn from our past mistakes!? That would be consistent with the way this administration thinks, now wouldn't it. Thanks JPJones!!!!!!!:toast:

[JPJones]

12. She's denying the NY Times story - that should piss off the NYT

She's saying the DOE didn't tell her the tubes were for rockets or were not very useful for a centrifuge before Sept 8, 2002. That is a relatively easily disprovable lie.

[Mikimouse]

15. I think that the Hague should mediate in matters such as this...

But, I guess we all have our dreams, no?:hippie:

[LynnTheDem]

11. Poor lying sleezy lice

*I* knew at the time that the DOE, who are THE EXPERTS on centrifuges, said the tubes are NOT for centrifuges but are ONLY for conventional rockets.

Yet the oh-so-"brilliant" US National Security Advisor rice tries to say she DIDN'T know this.

There are ONLY TWO CHOICES:

1. If she didn't know this, when even I did know this, then she's an ignorant dangerous fool.

or

2. She's a liar.

There are NO OTHER POSSIBILITIES.

[dennis4868]

19. DID YOU READ BOB GRAHAM'S BOOK?

the uncalssified NIE released to the senate before the vote did not have all the dissenting views and caveats as the classified version did....the senate was tricked into voting for the war as was the House.

[JPJones]

20. Bush and Condi knew - American people and Senate lied to n/t

[Mikimouse]

21. No, I did not see it.....n/t

[liberal N proud]

14. Bying her a subscription would do no good, she like shrub probably

does not read newspapers.
They let Carl do that for them.

[dennis4868]

16. Did you tell the President there were doubts about the intelligence?

AND CONDI SAID, "OF COURSE."

Well, there is the evidence we were all looking for. Now we have proof that Bush was misleading this country into the war in Iraq!

[JPJones]

17. Agreed. n/t

[dennis4868]

18. WHY DID IT TAKE 2 YEARS FOR THIS STORY TO COME OUT.....

The Center for American Progress had this story even before the war started....it's like the mainstreem media is 2 years behind reality!

[Francine Frensky]

22. I totally, totally agree.

[Francine Frensky]

23. Condi is a disaster. Her apptmt is like a polio expert as surgeun general

She was an expertr on the Soviet Union. Which doesn't even exist anymore!!!

She's like appointing an experts on dinosaurs as secy of the interior.

When she stood up at the press conference after 9-11 and said "nobody could have envisioned this" the press should have been ALL OVER HER!!!

There are four words for Condi: In. Over. Her. Head.