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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 09:15 AM
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I don't know if anybody has noticed, but the media is in Gore mode
and Kerry is getting Gored this morning.

By tomorrow they'll have Bush winning the first debate.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 09:18 AM
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1. What Are They Working With...
Arguably Gore gave them something to work with...



And how many folks watch tv on Saturday morning...



Bush will get skewered on SNL tonight and that's all people will talk about....

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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 09:19 AM
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2. Candy Crowley is talking about how repeating that Kerry
changes his mind "resonated" with the voters.

They are in full out Whore and Gore mode and the deal will be sealed on the Sunday lie and cry shows.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 09:22 AM
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8. I Can't Watch Her...
I lose my appetite....


A starving family of four could live for a week on what she consumes before breakfast....
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 09:32 AM
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13. lol....do you mean
"I Love" Candy Crowley??? :)
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Doohickie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 09:24 AM
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9. Saying it doesn't make it true.
The GOP last election managed to project all that was bad about Clinton onto the entire Democratic Party. Even people who might have voted Gore had this subliminal feeling that he was somehow soiled.

If anything, I think that "soiled" perception is now on Bush. Too many people have too many reservations about the job he has done on homeland security and also there are too many questions about whether we should even be in Iraq. Too many people are starting to wonder if giving more money to the rich when the working poor are having trouble getting by is really helping the economy.

Kerry knows this, which is why he boiled his campaign down to four words Thursday night: A vote for Bush is a vote for "more of the same".

Kerry knows there is dissatisfaction with Bush and is playing to it.
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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 05:45 PM
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29. That fat pig Crowley is the most aptly named person in news.

The only way it could be better is if her middle name was 'buttered-oreos'.
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arewenotdemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 06:35 PM
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36. Don't you mean
"resignated" with the voters?
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 09:21 AM
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5. ITA! A Kerry-friendly SNL presentation tonight of the............
first round of debates will TOTALLY undermine the Main Stream Media's attempt to "Gore" Kerry. :)
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 09:22 AM
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7. i hear Leno also made fun of Bush in that debate
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 11:05 AM
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19. Bill Maher did a pretty good job of roasting bush*
on Real Time last night.
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Jon8503 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 09:20 AM
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3. You know I saw that coming. Ron Reagan Jr on Harball last night
said it was without doubt that the public with all the polls believed Kerry easily won. He went on to say however it appears the media wants to keep it close or something to that effect.

Have you noticed how many times they say, this could change and we really don't know who won for 24 to 48 hours. (what they are saying until we can change the perception of who really won.).

The hell with them, they won't get it done this time and besides it was so dam obvious who won. Bush is not going to get any brighter before the next debate either and it is supposed to be a townhall style debate.
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AgadorSparticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 11:12 AM
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22. spot on, my friend!!
"this could change and we really don't know who won for 24 to 48 hours. (what they are saying until we can change the perception of who really won.)."

I think you hit this one dead on. But as my husband and I were talking, Saturday and Sundays will be taken up by football. Their spin cannot compete with football. Those that venture into political arenas know better than what is spun right now. I think their window of opportunity was yesterday and they missed that boat.
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Jon8503 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 05:35 PM
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24. You hit that one head on as well. I will be watching some games
myself & get away from the political issues for awhile. Also, it is my feeling that the news media is losing their credibility so fast that they will not have the power of persuasion they have had in the past. I think the public is getting on to their tactics and also getting tired of them telling us or talking down to us like we are total idiots and unable pick a winner of a debate in this case.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 09:20 AM
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4. Then it's time to go to war. 'Thanks for sharing.'
Thanks for being on top of this. What they did to Gore was both outrageous and painful to watch. If they were upset by 700 emails in their mailboxes supporting Kerry after the debate, how will they feel with a full scale onslaught. Why don't you document who it is if you can (I'm not watching anymore and I'm pounding the pavement for JK all day today). I'm sure there would be a robust group of e-warriors ready to take them on. Maybe it's time for a real BOYCOTT also.
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skylarmae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 09:21 AM
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6. THEY NEVER LEFT THE GORE MOOD
How on earth do you think that this president has been able
to get away with all the low caliber behavior out of his White house
and his cohorts and his house and his senate and his court.
The media is too controled by his cronies. I blame most of the media
for the mess our country is in for not having dogged this guy
hard before. It seems they are not doing their job and the USA
is going to hell in a handbasket while the rest of the world
takes up the slack. Something must be done. I keep hearing rumblings about the necessity to TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK. (FROM THESE
REPUQ HACKS AND LIARS AND CON MEN AND MURDERERS.
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Jon8503 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 09:29 AM
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11. One of the first things Kerry needs to do when he gets in the White
House is break up the media. This is for the common good of all so the media doesn't have to broadcast what their corporate owners want and order them to.

The media should be free and bias free as it pretty much used to be. Regardless of them saying the networks were liberal, I still think the old newscasters kept their political biases to themselves and reported the news as it should be reported and did not make things up as the Fox Whorehouse does.
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 09:34 AM
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14. or Kerry could only provide access to independents
bringing back the fairness doctrine and breaking up big media would take the congress and I'm not sure we're gonna get a sweep big enough to take Congress too.
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Jon8503 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 09:36 AM
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15. Correct, and as you say he could basically kick Fox's asses out along
with some of the other jerks that only cater to who is in power at the time.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 11:07 AM
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21. He can do that by putting some teeth back into the FCC.
Kerry will have the power to appoint the commissioners to the FCC. Getting rid of Michael Powell will be a big first step.
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 06:02 PM
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35. yes, yes, yes. 1paper, 1tv station per corporation per state.
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July Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 11:03 AM
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18. What skylarmae said.
You called it.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 09:26 AM
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10. There's Nothing To Work With...
You can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear...


I'm not worried....


Res ipsa loquitur....
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Jon8503 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 09:30 AM
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12. I like that what is the Res ipsa loquitur..
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 11:00 AM
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16. The thing speaks for itself. That's an excellent point. bush*s performance
was pathetic, and no matter how the media tries to spin it, it was obvious and apparent.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 11:02 AM
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17. Nuff Latin...
Edited on Sat Oct-02-04 11:02 AM by DemocratSinceBirth
Bush sucked....


He got his ass kicked....


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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 05:47 PM
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31. A thing which is obviously true...

If you find broken glass in an intersection, res ipsa loquitor, there was probably a car crash there earlier.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 11:05 AM
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20. Is this widespread -- beyond CNN? Can they make Bush the winner...
of the debate? Anybody have some reports?
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MallRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 05:38 PM
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25. The alphabet networks aren't buying the Bush spin.
ABC, NBC, and CBS are, for the most part, calling it like they saw it:

The President got Bush-slapped around by Kerry.

-MR
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 05:44 PM
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27. You Nailed It...
They would look like tools if they defended Bush's performance....


If it was a movie it would have been Gigli....
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 05:45 PM
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28. LOL!
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 05:51 PM
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32. According To The Newseek Poll
61% said Kerry won....


19% said Bush won....



They would like idiots if they said Bush won....
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 05:55 PM
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34. Whereas
the cable networks don't even mind being tools. Sad.:-(
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 05:46 PM
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30. Thanks, MallRat -- good news --
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 05:42 PM
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26. CNN has between 800 thousand & 1 Million viewers on a good day
This represents less then 1% of the possible American viewing audience.

I will try to find the link for this info.

Fuck CNN
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Rabelais Donating Member (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 11:19 AM
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23. What does crying about it accomplish?
Nothing anyone can do but adapt and deal with it.
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sherilocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 05:53 PM
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33. Capitol Boys on Faux made my sick
Kondrake and Barnes were goring JK endlessly this PM. I switched to a bad movie after 10 minutes to keep from throwing my TV through the window.
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