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Demi_Babe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 10:16 PM
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Gallup defends results against MoveOn.org attack
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/president/2004-09-28-gallup-defense_x.htm

click on link and check out the chart! :wtf:



Posted 9/28/2004 10:19 PM



Gallup defends results against MoveOn.org attack
By Mark Memmott, USA TODAY

This year's USA TODAY/CNN/Gallup polling on the presidential race is coming under attack from liberal critics who say Gallup's methods produce results that are biased in favor of President Bush.
Gallup says it stands by its work, which Tuesday showed Bush ahead of Sen. John Kerry by eight percentage points among likely voters — if the election were held "today." That was down from a 13-point lead for Bush two weeks earlier. Gallup's recent polls have consistently shown Bush further ahead than he is in other surveys.

USA TODAY said Tuesday it remains confident in Gallup.

The firm, said USA TODAY Polling Editor Jim Norman, "has been doing USA TODAY's political polling since 1988. ... I'm impressed by the constant testing and retesting they do of their methodology to make sure they get it right."

CNN spokesmen were unavailable for comment.

In recent weeks, complaints about the USA TODAY/CNN/Gallup polls had mostly been aired in "blogs," or online diaries, on the Internet. Tuesday, the issue spilled into the "mainstream media." MoveOn.org, a liberal advocacy group, paid $68,000 to run a full-page ad in The New York Times. The ad's headline: "Gallup-ing to the Right. Why does America's top pollster keep getting it wrong?"

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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 10:19 PM
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1. Good
They're playing OUR game now. However most people don't believe polls anyhow.
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Demi_Babe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 10:20 PM
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2. I can not believe that chart...
that is sickening
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southern democrat Donating Member (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 10:21 PM
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3. Yankee/Braves world series?
Just polled 75% in Atlanta25% in NY,guess what,poll says braves are going to win.DUH!!!!!!!!
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 10:30 PM
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4. So I looked at the chart. They spot the GOP 12 pts yet they're only up 8
I'd say we're winning HUGE.
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wanpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 10:50 PM
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5. I'm so glad
someone finally challenged Gallup on this slop they've been serving up under the guise of "polls" for the last few months. It's ridiculous. Of course, we DU'ers know it's a bunch of bull. But those that are not exposed could tend to believe the bs. Good going moveon. Keep it coming!:bounce:
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 10:52 PM
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6. People are looking at USA Today, CNN, and Gallup....
with those distorted numbers....Bad enough that it is Gallup, but for USA Today and CNN to tattle the numbers also is just too much.
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StrongbadTehAwesome Donating Member (623 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 11:26 PM
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7. I love that chart!
The article is mostly just an excuse to provide Gallup with a place to explain their bad methodology ("uh, party affiliation is just an attitude that people change several times during an election year") - BUT they're proved wrong by their own chart!

For every poll in which the percentage of Republicans to Democrats exceeds the "margin of error" (4%), the side with more people polled comes out on top. For polls that gave a 4% or less advantage in numbers to one side or the other, the results show either a dead heat or a Kerry lead.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 11:55 PM
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8. Frank Newport is an idiot.
Along with the rest of the Gallup Gang.

They will all be looking for work shortly after Nov. 2.
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 01:49 AM
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9. Looks like they've just confirmed what we
DU'ers have known all along. Man, when you consider that there are far more registered Democrats than Repukes, we are so far ahead. All we have to do is get the turnout, and we win big! Which, of course, I'm sure Gallup and other Republican pollsters already know, which is why they do these bogus polls. They're hoping to demoralize the Democratic base so they won't bother voting. Or setting it up for an election theft. Or both.

Probably both.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 03:26 AM
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10. Their own chart confirms! Hello, USA Today???
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 04:52 AM
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11. I simply find it hard to believe
that republican self identification will be higher than democratic party ID.

Plus, I think the % of independants will be higher as well. I would guess that many that have been registered by democratic groups may end up voting for Kerry, but may not necessarily consider themselves 'democrats' per se.

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