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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 01:19 PM
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John Kerry Is a Mac User!


THE CALL
From his study in the family's Pittsburgh, Pa., home, Kerry phones Edwards to officially invite the North Carolina Senator to be his running mate

That's a PowerBook on his desk! :)
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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 01:20 PM
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1. I knew it should have been Dean...
:)
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Rooktoven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 01:23 PM
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4. What do you mean?
Unless Dean used Linux that is...
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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 01:33 PM
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12. Joe Trippi refered to it as an "open-source campaign"
He also used to work for Progeny Linux Systems.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 01:22 PM
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2. More evidence of his intelligence and appreciation for good design!
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 01:23 PM
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3. Well, we already KNEW he was smart
This just confirms it.
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 02:32 PM
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26. Exactly!
:D
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 01:25 PM
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5. How is supposed to reduce the deficit
if he insists on using overpriced equipment in his personal life?
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cheshire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 01:29 PM
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9. He know quality and won't have to replace as often?
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FlaIndie Donating Member (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 01:49 PM
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18. but with Dell
he'd get some computer made in China and outsourced call help in India, so he is just buying American. :)

Besides, the dude is a millionaire. That PowerBook only set him back like 2 or 3 grand.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 02:09 PM
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24. No so overpriced
One arguement I've heard in favor of PCs is that there is more software for it. But then so many I know use theirs mainly as a game machine instead of a work machine. That's one heck of an expensive game machine.

And I don't know if it's still true, but one used to have to go and buy things like ports and speakers and such that Mac already has. It equals out in the end. One perk for a PC user is they can pick and choose what kind of equipment they get.

Like with Republicans, I rejoice when I find an enlightened PC user who doesn't immediately attack me for the kind of computer I have. I like the conversations where I can admit that a PC has uses and some PC users can admit that a Mac has uses. PC's are good for number crunching. Macs are good for publishing.

I have no problem with someone wanting to use a PC. But more than one PC user has a problem with me using a Mac. I've been called a Mac Nazi and told to "Get a real computer" by more than one PC user just for mentioning that I have a Mac.

I do like that my contact with Microsoft products is limited. Fewer if any virus problems that way.

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politicat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 04:45 PM
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35. less down time, no viri worries and equivalent prices for equivalent goods
that aren't made in some sweatshop of a clean room?

This is bad how?

Pcat
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 01:26 PM
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6. YES!!!
Kerry's intelligence shows through in so many ways.
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 01:47 PM
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16. People who use Macs are smarter than those who don't?
Thanks for letting us know. :eyes:
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cheshire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 01:28 PM
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7. Got to love a man who goes his own way no matter what others will say.
An apple shows he has brains. Look at the size of that screen. Looks bigger that * himself. LOL What do you think * uses. Mickey Mouse pc?
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 01:29 PM
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8. So? We know he's rich enough to afford one,
unlike all of us out here who are using generic PC clones with refurbished innards and recycled software.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 01:31 PM
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10. Maybe he's bi.
I have a Mac at home, but it includes PC emulator software which allows me to "go to the dark side" when necessary.

:headbang:
rocknation
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 01:33 PM
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11. Wintendo
I've got my G4 for all my needs, and a PC that I call a Wintendo (heh :) ) for playing games :D
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ochazuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 01:49 PM
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17. Flippity Floppity
Fooo!
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shockingelk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 01:35 PM
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13. Maybe Kerry will have a "1984" ad
Strategy.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 01:38 PM
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14. I knew I liked JK for a reason.
23.


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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 01:45 PM
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15. Oh well, we can't all be perfect.
He'll see the light some day.
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Nomad559 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 01:51 PM
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19. Rush Limbaugh
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Dob Bole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 01:52 PM
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20. We're screwed!!!
Edited on Mon Sep-27-04 01:53 PM by Dob Bole
Somebody needs to introduce Mr. Kerry to the Penguin.

Although Macs are good for graphic design...maybe he's releasing all those nasty pictures of Bush?
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politicat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 04:49 PM
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36. My penguin boi is on a Mac. Watch what you're saying, there....
OSX is Unix, friend. Unix with good end-user design.

And as it happens, my partner runs Yellow Dog linux on his Mac as well as Mole and a PC emulator.

He couldn't have all three OS types on a PC. On a Mac, he can.

Pcat
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 01:55 PM
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21. He knows what works
Sure PC's are cheaper, They also have more problems than Michael Jackson. Had a Gateway PC for my first computer. Every time I used it I ended up screaming at it. Got a G3 Mac and then a G4. Never had a single problem with either of them. Easy as hell to use, elegant, and fun. I'll pay the extra money for that. My girlfriend uses a Dell. It seems she's always on the phone with their tech support, which has now been outsourced to India and you can barely understand the people on the other end of the line.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 01:58 PM
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22. Edwards does too. Remember the CNN debate focusing on "the youth vote"
All the candidates were asked: pc or mac? Edwards said mac. Dude.
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 02:04 PM
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23. Wrong
I'm sure he switches back and forth:)
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Tracer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 02:11 PM
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25. I'm a Mac user ...
... out of necessity Ñ I'm a graphic designer.

But even if I weren't, I'd choose a Mac over a PC anyday.

You have no idea how many of my customers call me and ask me how to do something on their PCs (as if I'd know!). It's pathetic how complicated PCs are for the average person compared to Macs.

(And wouldn't I like that laptop that's sitting on Kerry's desk!)
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stryker18 Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 02:34 PM
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27. Two words
Zip files. I'm a PC convert from Mac, and I couldn't live without zip files. I play emulators, I DL songs, etc. etc.
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realcountrymusic Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 03:16 PM
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30. Huh?
You can decompress .zip files on a Mac, of course. I do it every day.

As for you Linux boosters, looked under the hood of Mac OS X lately? What I love about new Macs is my ability to go geek at the drop of a (no longer Red) Hat. I run a lab full of every flavor - Win XP boxes (including a new Athlon 64 workstation, very slick), Mac G5s, and Linux (Debian), plus a server running OSX Server (talk about sweet software for an overworked part-time sysadmin). Each has its benefits and downsides. But as the guy who actually *buys* the computers and is responsible for a budget, I am convinced that Macs do *not* cost more than PCs in overall TCO (total cost of ownership, in the biz jargon). In fact, in my environment, Macs save me a lot of money because the students who work in my lab can be up and running on complex applications much faster on the Macs, except for the few who are really computer-savvy. Saves me time, and the staff. And that is serious money. The Macs last longer even though they get more use, too. They are more expensive to fix, because of proprietary parts, but they don't often break. There are some things for which a PC is better. A zillion things where it doesn't make a bit of difference what you use. And a few things (what we do a lot of) where a Mac is better -- video production, audio production, web design. The "who is smarter?" thing is dumb. Macs do make a certain fashion statement some people find snobbish and others find enlightened. Who cares? They are, in general, darn good computers and an excellent value in TCO. (However, they do break. I am just in the process of returning a dead iBook to Apple. On the other hand, Apple was very courteous, sent me a return kit by overnight mail, and took my word for it that I knew enough to diagnose the problem as the PMU chip, thus skipping half an hour of BS on the phone. I've never had the same quality treatment from a PC vendor. On the other hand, I've never had a nightmare with a PC vendor before, though I have with CDW, the company from which I buy - er used to buy -- PCs.)

Speed is now a silly issue. The Mac I'm writing this on can run circles around all but the very fastest PCs (like our new DP Athlon 64, which feels just as fast, or maybe a touch faster). The PowerPC architecture is superb if it has enough L2 cache and DDR RAM to work with. But I'll put this 64-bit dual-processor G5 up against *any* single-processor Pentium out there on any processor-intensive task. Only when the P4's start hitting the upper 3 GHz range do they start to compete with my even a single-processor G5 box. And mostly they still don't keep up. True, my DP G5 is a $3500 box. But you can spend that much easily for a *comparable* level of PC power. And most people (myself include!) probably don't need anything like this level of performance most of the time.

The software issue is silly now too. Because of the unix core OS (FreeBSD) there are thousands of open-source apps now ported to Mac OSX, and more every day. In fact, you can run almost any unix app on a Mac using built-in xWindows. And porting to OSX is simple. I have never met a task -- since OSX 10.2 at least -- for which there is *no* adequate Mac software. But I'm not a gamer (and I don't understand people who are. It's like driving a serious car around a racetrack instead of on the open road to me, but de gustibus etc.). So there are zillions of games for the PC, and few for the Mac. Gamers should buy (expensive) PCs. Everyone else should look seriously at what they have to do, what interface feels most comfortable to them, how they use a computer, what their "free" tech support (friends, family, co-workers) prefers, and how cost-of-ownership is calculated in their work environment. In a lot of cases, a Mac is a better and more economical choice -- certainly more cases than the 4 percent market share suggests. A Volvo costs more than a Ford Focus. But if you plan to keep a car 15 years, the Volvo might be cheaper. Personally, I use Macs on my desktop, as laptop sidearms, and as my preferred creative platform in the lab, and I have since my first Apple Mac 512KE in the 1980s. But it's really not an ideological choice, and not worth having the fights that take up so much energy on this issue in cyberspace.

Can't we all just get along?

RCM

Posted on a DP G5 2.5GHz/2GB/2x250GB HD/liquid-cooled cheese-grater.


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realcountrymusic Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 07:15 PM
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39. correcting myself
I was fantasizing, as any serious Mac addict would know. My G5 is a dual 2 GHz. The 2.5 is still a dream. But everything I said is just as true of the dual 2.

RCM
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 02:40 PM
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28. HE HATES 'MURKA!
:P
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 02:58 PM
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29. YES!
Lousy no good, elitist FAGachusetts liberal!

part of the latte drinking edgy elite, he is!
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George W. Dunce Donating Member (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 03:17 PM
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31. Dell assembles computer much in the same way I do
They buy parts from other companies such ATI,MSI,Lite-On and assemble, not build computers. I wish I could afford an Apple, till then it's Mandrake and Xp dual boot.(I can't ditch Windows I am a gamer)
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 04:22 PM
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32. Doncha mean MACachusetts librul?
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politicat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 04:51 PM
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38. Yeah, he hates an AMERICAN company that has kept their tech support
IN AMERICA....

as I know; I was on the phone with them today....

(And Apple has great support - 15 minute phone call and they're sending me a replacement Airport card for the one that's getting flakey... not even not usable!!)

Pcat
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 04:38 PM
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33. piss on a mac!!!
the tool of the devil!!! nader camp, here i come!!!

lol
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 04:43 PM
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34. SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!
Looks like a 17 incher to me....I have a 12 inch powerbook.

I'll bet Bush can barely turn on a PC!


Would Kerry be the first Mac using president in office?

Apple should cash in on this picture...you never know it may encourage people to go Mac..

because we all know...once you've gone Mac, you'll NEVER go back.


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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 07:45 PM
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41. No, Clinton was also a Mac user
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Insomnicole Donating Member (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 08:36 PM
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43. Actually, our ELECTED President is on the board at Apple!
http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2003/mar/19gore.html

That's gotta be a 17-inch PowerBook Kerry's got. Too much laptop for me, but it's probably perfect for him.
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 08:40 PM
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44. Actually, he's using a 15" Titanium!
You can tell it's the old 15" Titanium PowerBook because it has the plugs on the back of the lappy, all the new ones have plugs on the sides :)
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demokatgurrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 04:50 PM
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37. Of course!
The CEO of Mac supports Democrats- Mr. Dell is a GOP supporter.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 07:23 PM
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40. It's like Carolina/Duke,
The Great Democrat Dean Smith vs. the evil Rethug
Coach Shienknklcnnwcvnsknvsndvjkabd
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briang5000 Donating Member (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 08:08 PM
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42. most PC users have never really used a Mac
Edited on Mon Sep-27-04 08:09 PM by briang5000
The thing that always puzzles me is how many PC users have never really even used a Mac.

I use a PC everyday at work. I know my way around the PC.
I prefer to use a Mac at home (G4) but I know what the differences are.

Most PC users haven't used one ever ... or only used an old Apple years ago at school. They really should take a peek at OS X.
It is so much better than XP.

No viruses, No Pop-ups, Very few crashes (really almost none), Spam control, and no spyware.

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