Should we blast email C-Span....THIS NEEDS TO BE SEEN.

[bush equals idiot]

I'm talking about the speech he gave on the Senate floor before he said he would vote for the war resolution. If you haven't seen it, IT WAS BRILLIANT. Maybe the best speech he ever gave.

He said REPEATEDLY how he was relying on the information Bush was saying. And IF these things were true, it would be wrong not to give him the authority to use force.

It was almost like he had a crystal ball stating that if things weren't done properly (and he laid out a list) that it would get out of hand and be a disaster for America. And exactly what he predicted came true!!

Almost none of America has seen that speech. I'd bet on it. And if they did, it stops the flip-flop crap dead in it's tracks.

I even recommmended in the one line ZINGER thread, that he even ask Bush the question in the debate--Mr. Bush will you recommend to America tonight, to read or hear the speech that I gave on the Senate floor when I trusted you with the authority to use force only as a last resort, so they can see how I flip-flopped. BOY THAT WOULD DO IT!!:kick: But what can we do to get that seen?? Will he help if we blast email C-Span?

[coloradodem2005]

1. kick

This is huge. As much as it annoys me to hear Kerry being called a flip-flopper, this should dispell any notions of that bullshit. :kick:

[jumpstart33]

34. The Kerry campaign should use one-liners in their ads just before election

Even Kerry's 71 testimony fits with how the Iraqi war is playing out. Kerry has nothing to be ashamed of and he should say so. He should not back down from what he said and believed in the past.

[AIJ Alom]

2. Yes. Agreed. We should have CSPAN rebroadcast that speech !

KICK ! Everyone email CSPAN ASAP and request that this speech be replayed !

http://www.independentsforkerry.org/uploads/media/kerry-iraq.html

TEXT FROM THE SPEECH JOHN KERRY MADE ON THE SENATE FLOOR
October 9, 2002

It will kill the flip flop lie !!!

[PROGRESSIVE1]

4. kick

[Paradise]

5. Thanks for the link!

Quotes from speech:







Full text of speech:
http://www.independentsforkerry.org/uploads/media/kerry-iraq.html

[annabanana]

8. thanks for the quote gif.............n/t

[bush equals idiot]

36. President Kerry needs the power of this group to insist this gets exposure

[Carolinian]

7. Done. Will also ask CBS to cover pre war speeches by both candidates.

[iwantmycountryback]

3. They can't ask questions to each other

But maybe Kerry can say I recommend all Americans to watch my speech on the senate floor and decide for themselves whether I have actually flip-flopped.

[Celeborn Skywalker]

6. Kick

This needs to be seen.

[bush equals idiot]

11. I think so too.

I beg of everybody, we have to keep this alive on the board so that every member we can possibly get from DU will help get this message out. And is aware of it.

The entire Republican party has staked the election on pinning this flip-flop-on-Iraq bullshit on him. AND THIS ENDS IT OVERNIGHT!! There is no comeback to it.

We have to even get other news networks to show some of it. Or at least quoting passages from it. I can't think of a more important speech or document we have to get America to see or hear about!!!!!

[Lefty48197]

9. The News media should report on this story

Too bad the news media in America is dead.

[VOX]

10. Thanks for posting this, bei, and welcome to DU!

:toast:

[Paradise]

12. Thanks * = idiot, Welcome, and Done! :) n/t

[bush equals idiot]

25. 'preciate the welcome.

[enough]

13. kick

[ropi]

14. i think i may have to venture over to...

*gasp* the forbidden zone <wink> and see if they know about it

[Paradise]

15. *gulp* go for me, too! :) n/t

[Political_Junkie]

16. kick

:kick:

[napi21]

17. How long is this speech? Does anyone know?

The reason I ask is, could it be in a purchased ad? Or maybe excerpts in an ad with a link to the full ad on a web site?

Even if cspan reairs it, it will still only get to the political junkies.

[juajen]

30. It is long. I just read it.

It certainly should be posted on the Kerry/Edwards04 site, and maybe it could be posted on Buzzflash, DU, Democrats.com, etc. It should be available in as many places as possible, IMO.

[bush equals idiot]

35. Bump

[Sydnie]

18. Just sent my email to C-Span at these addresses

[e-mail]

[e-mail]

Lets hope they hear our pleas and arrange this right away.

[Windy]

27. I emailed Harball and Olberman with the complete speech text.

I also told them in the mail that it is critical that the speech be brought to the attention of the viewing public!

[Guaranteed]

19. Freaking genius post.

Now you see the purpose of the "two-faced" guerrilla marketing campaign...

[KT2000]

20. This must go in an ad

certainly quotes could be taken from the speech.

[Guaranteed]

23. A full one-minute ad, national.

Break the bank on it.

[mbali]

21. He said it then, he's saying it now -

"If we do wind up going to war with Iraq, it is imperative that we do so with others in the international community, unless there is a showing of a grave, imminent--and I emphasize 'imminent'--threat to this country which requires the President to respond in a way that protects our immediate national security needs."
. . .

"Let there be no doubt or confusion about where we stand on this. I will support a multilateral effort to disarm him by force, if we ever exhaust those other options, as the President has promised, but I will not support a unilateral U.S. war against Iraq unless that threat is imminent and the multilateral effort has not proven possible under any circumstances.

"In voting to grant the President the authority, I am not giving him carte blanche to run roughshod over every country that poses or may pose some kind of potential threat to the United States. Every nation has the right to act preemptively, if it faces an imminent and grave threat, for its self-defense under the standards of law. The threat we face today with Iraq does not meet that test yet. I emphasize 'yet.' Yes, it is grave because of the deadliness of Saddam Hussein's arsenal and the very high probability that he might use these weapons one day if not disarmed. But it is not imminent, and no one in the CIA, no intelligence briefing we have had suggests it is imminent. None of our intelligence reports suggest that he is about to launch an attack.

[Guaranteed]

22. Sent to Tweety- here's a link to a good portion of the speech

if not all of it:

http://kerryblog.blogspot.com/2004/08/bush-gets-his-answer-then-changes.html

You gotta scroll a little ways down, past "8 comments" (the number might change).

It's prophetic. EVERYONE NEEDS TO SEE THIS. Send it to as many people as you can.

[bush equals idiot]

24. Kick....thanks for jumping on this.

:kick:

IT'S THE SPEECH THAT DOES THEM IN. TOWARD THE END IS MINDBLOWING.

[Windy]

26. Post the text of this speech on right leaning bloga/bulletin boards!

I have posted to a few!

[Gloria]

28. Why doesn't Kerry use this quote in an ad? Have him speaking with

a rolling tally of the number of Americans dead in Iraq faintly in the background.....

[Virginian]

29. The debaters can't ask each other questions.

[Sydnie]

31. Kick n/t

[bush equals idiot]

32. Please help if you can.

Compose a short hard hard hitting email and blast it to as many of the relevant news media on this list. PRESIDENT KERRY NEEDS US!!!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...



:kick: :dem: :kick:

[bush equals idiot]

33. kick

[bush equals idiot]

37. Bringing it back again.

How many times are we hearing it? The flip-flop brainwashing is their biggest hope. We have to KILL IT ! This speech does.

I emailed about 75 from the list. Do a short concise email and shotgun it to some of these media sources.

[HootieMcBoob]

38. as somebody posted a while back

I couldn't find the post but I loved it so much I copied to my notepad. Here's what was posted here...it's brilliant.

Kerry said at the time;

"Let me be clear, the vote I will give to the President is for one reason and one reason only : To disarm Iraq of weapons of mass destruction, if we cannot accomplish that objective through new, tough weapons inspections in joint concert with our allies."

Then bush kicked out the UN weapons inspectors and invaded.

BUSH VIOLATED HIS OWN RESOLUTION.

Here's what Bush said in 2002:
Q Mr. President, how important is it that that resolution give you an authorization of the use of force?

BUSH: That will be part of the resolution, the authorization to use force. If you want to keep the peace, you've got to have the authorization to use force. But it's -- this will be -- this is a chance for Congress to indicate support. It's a chance for Congress to say, we support the administration's ability to keep the peace. That's what this is all about.

Okay, once again:
BUSH: It's a chance for Congress to say, we support the administration's ability to keep the peace. That's what this is all about.

Remember? Bush said he wanted the authorization to use force so that he'd have a strong bargaining chip at the United Nations--and that the U.N. would get new inspectors in, and that, maybe, this would lead to Saddam disarming without a war.

That's why Kerry voted for the resolution. As he said at the time,

Let me be clear, the vote I will give to the President is for one reason and one reason only: To disarm Iraq of weapons of mass destruction, if we cannot accomplish that objective through new, tough weapons inspections in joint concert with our allies.


And we did get new, tough weapons inspections in joint concert with our allies. And then Bush blew it by invading anyway.

It wasn't just possible to support the resolution without supporting Bush's war--avoiding war was the specific reason Bush gave to support the resolution. There's nothing incoherent about Kerry's position. Bush blew it. The resolution had the effect (getting inspectors back in) that Kerry had intended. He was right. W was wrong.

(Oh, and when Bush's spokesman says "John Kerry voted for the war"--it's a lie.)

[bush equals idiot]

39. Correct as can be.

And where have you heard this speech talked about or written about?
NOWHERE, THAT'S WHERE!!! A thousand emails will change that.

It explains the "blunder" that everybody thought he made when he said he'd still vote the same way if he knew what he knew today.

Of COURSE he would have! Because he was GIVING AUTHORITY FOR THE USE OF FORCE ONLY IF EVERY OTHER ATTEMPT FAILD , AND IN CONCERT WITH OUR ALLIES. Not, giving Bush authority to send cruise missiles in a WEEK later! While the inspectors were there and begging for at least a few more weeks, insisting they were making progress.

[giant_robot]

40. Here's my e-mail

Feel free to copy or alter as necessary.

Dear Sir/Ma'am:

It has recently come to my attention that the text of John Kerry's senate-floor speech concerning the Iraq war resolution is available on the web. In this speech, Mr. Kerry clearly explains his position on the war resolution, a position which has not changed to this day. This speech repudiates George Bush's "flip-flop" allegations, showing that Mr. Bush misrepresents Mr. Kerry's position on Iraq. Please take some time to visit the link and peruse the exerpts below.

http://www.independentsforkerry.org/uploads/media/kerry-iraq.html


"In giving the President this authority, I expect him to fulfill the commitments he has made to the American people in recent days--to work with the United Nations Security Council to adopt a new resolution setting out tough and immediate inspection requirements, and to act with our allies at our side if we have to disarm Saddam Hussein by force. If he fails to do so, I will be among the first to speak out.

If we do wind up going to war with Iraq, it is imperative that we do so with others in the international community, unless there is a showing of a grave, imminent--and I emphasize "imminent"--threat to this country which requires the President to respond in a way that protects our immediate national security needs."

"Let there be no doubt or confusion about where we stand on this. I will support a multilateral effort to disarm him by force, if we ever exhaust those other options, as the President has promised, but I will not support a unilateral U.S. war against Iraq unless that threat is imminent and the multilateral effort has not proven possible under any circumstances.

In voting to grant the President the authority, I am not giving him carte blanche to run roughshod over every country that poses or may pose some kind of potential threat to the United States. Every nation has the right to act preemptively, if it faces an imminent and grave threat, for its self-defense under the standards of law. The threat we face today with Iraq does not meet that test yet. I emphasize "yet." Yes, it is grave because of the deadliness of Saddam Hussein's arsenal and the very high probability that he might use these weapons one day if not disarmed. But it is not imminent, and no one in the CIA, no intelligence briefing we have had suggests it is imminent. None of our intelligence reports suggest that he is about to launch an attack. "

[mbee]

41. Can it be emailed to Jim Lehr who is the moderator of the first

debate?

[bush equals idiot]

42. I don't see why not.

Especially if we can get it to be broadcast on C-Span before Thursday. That would make it incredibly noteworthy.

[mzmolly]

43. Actually, making this into an AD from a 527 might be more effective.

Contact moveon.org

http://www.moveon.org/feedback/

:hi:

[mzmolly]

44. Here is the text of the speech and more!

http://www.independentsforkerry.org/info/index.php?category_id=1452

Here is a highlite of the speech

http://www.independentsforkerry.org/info/index.php?category_id=1453

Here is a website explaining Kerry's consistant position with flyers and downloads!

http://www.kerryoniraqwar.com/

[mzmolly]

45. PS .. I contacted Moveon.

:hi:

Thanks for the inspiration.

[bush equals idiot]

46. I'm trying.

I'm fighting my ass to off trying to make people here understand how important this is.