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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 05:05 PM
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"George Bush...doesn't get his kicks from pot or hashish or speed"
(T)he latest documents contain news releases that the Texas Air National Guard sent to Houston newspapers in 1970 about young Bush, then a second lieutenant and new pilot. "George Bush is one member of the younger generation who doesn't get his kicks from pot or hashish or speed," the news release said. "Oh, he gets high, all right, but not from narcotics."

Three decades later, a new book by Kitty Kelley has alleged that Bush used cocaine while he was a student at Yale University and later at Camp David while his father was president.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=694&e=4&u=/ap/bush_guard_records

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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 05:12 PM
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1. ...doesn't get his kicks from pot or hashish or speed
I guess technically they are right. His drug of choice was the nose candy.

The lie is in the details.
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Veggie Meathead Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 05:14 PM
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2. He follows the straight white line.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 05:20 PM
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3. No maryjane for this member of the younger generation!
Funny, isn't it--the mythmaking had to start so early for this failure, this slacker, this cutter of corners and puller of strings.
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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 05:20 PM
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4. WHITE LINES......BLOW AWAAAAAYYYYY!
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bobbyboucher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 05:23 PM
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5. What a collosal pile of steaming horseshit.
That bullshit document was in his file but all the required stuff is gone? Somebody is going to fry. This is ridiculous. His records were scrubbed, no doubt.
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Clinton Crusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 05:25 PM
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6. Im just BLOWN away
:kick:
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 05:29 PM
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7. I'll bet he's proud to be an Okie from Musskokee, too.
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Nashyra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 05:30 PM
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8. Why in gods name did they have to even mention narcotics
Doesn't it seem strange to anyone that narcotics even had to be addressed.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 05:34 PM
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9. So when did the National Guardstart issuing news releases
Edited on Fri Sep-17-04 05:35 PM by DoYouEverWonder
about their members and their drug habits?

Give me a break. This is beyond bogus.
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WinterStorm Donating Member (790 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 05:39 PM
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10. What came out prior to this letter?
Was Bush caught with drugs?

Was he accused of possessing them?

Why did a letter like this get written.

Isn't it odd that they address drug usage in it? Why?
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hippiegranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 05:47 PM
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11. that's cause he's a tweaker
not buying what they're trying to sell. if our memos are supposedly false, then so are theirs.
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Chili Donating Member (832 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 05:52 PM
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12. what oozing horseshit
I don't believe ANYTHING with George Herbert Walker Bush's fingerprints on them. NOTHING.

If that were there all the time, it would've come out 4 years ago when these drug allegations came up the first time.

Bullshit.
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cheshire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 05:52 PM
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13. Noopity It's Cokey he likey. Do you think they were searching all over
Edited on Fri Sep-17-04 05:54 PM by dieharderdem
to find that important piece of official paperwork? lol
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 05:53 PM
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14. I am surprised it doesn't say that
G. W. Bush is not the kind of guy that would make his young girlfriend to have an abortion.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 05:58 PM
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15. I've seen this before -- long ago -- and wondered then

why drugs were mentioned at all.

How can this be a new release when many of us have seen it before?
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 06:11 PM
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16. Not since he tasted POWER. THE POWER TO KILL......
The Power to fuck over your enemies the power to lie the power to deceive the power over americas soul.
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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 07:34 PM
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17. Here Is Bush's Own Words On His Drug Record (And Kerry's Words)
"When I was young and irresponsible, I was really young and irresponsible." - George W. Bush

Three independent sources close to the Bush family report that Governor Bush was arrested in 1972 for cocaine possession, and taken to Harris County Jail, but avoided jail or formal charges through an informal diversion plan involving community service.

Bush has essentially admitted that he used cocaine in his Clintonesque, carefully worded partial denials. He won't deny using cocaine or marijuana, though under persistent questioning he said that he hadn't used cocaine in the last 7 years. Most newspapers report that he denies using cocaine since 1974, but that's not exactly true.

What Bush actually said was ""I could have passed the FBI background check on the standards applied on the most stringent conditions when my dad was president of the United States - a 15-year period," Mr. Bush said. This is ambiguous because background forms ask slightly different questions, depending on the position. Drug questions can go back one year, seven years or 10 years. Bush Jr. didn't have any formal position in his father's administration, so which one applies is unclear. And 15-years is not one of the choices.

Since Bush Sr.'s presidency began in January 1989, reporters assumed that Jr. was denying drug use for 15 years before that, to 1974. But that is not at all clear. His only direct statement was for seven years before today. He could easily have been denying drug use only for 15 years before today, based on 7 or 10 years dating back from the END of his dad's term. 10 years before 1993, the end of Bush Sr.'s term, is pretty close to 15 years before today.

The Clinton administration actually has a stricter standard than Bush did -- the FBI now asks about any drug use after age 18. But Governor Bush has refused to say whether he would pass that standard. Bush also has refused to answer whether he could have passed the FBI test when his father was vice president, during the 8 years from 1981-1989.

As for the arrest and diversion charge, Governor Bush admits working at the center in 1972. When asked for comment, Bush's campaign spokesman reportedly said "Oh shit... no comment."

http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm#cocaine

Kerry was asked by reporters to explain why he thought that questions surrounding George Bush regarding whether or not he had used cocaine were more substantively relevant than Gore's use of marijuana. Kerry, noting that Al Gore had already admitted his use of marijuana, said:

"(H)e (Gore) said 'I used it.' So that's not an issue... And I don't think Al Gore intends, you know, to make prior use an issue of other people, except to the degree that it affects public policy."

Pressed later on the question of the Bush cocaine rumors, Kerry laid out his thinking on why Bush's drug use, if substantiated, is indeed an important issue for voters to consider:

"The issue about George Bush is not the fact that he may have used it, said Kerry. "The issue about George Bush is, how can you, if you have (used cocaine), have a position that is so at odds in terms of being a governor where you send a lot of other people who may have done the same thing you do to jail. That's the issue. It's not a question of whether he used it or when he used it, it's a question of what his policy is today and whether that's hypocritical and dangerous."

The Week Online spoke with Kerry Spokesman David Wade, who reiterated the Senator's position.

"The Vice President has long admitted that he has used marijuana," said Wade. "Governor Bush, on the other hand, will say only that when he was young and irresponsible, he was young and irresponsible. But when Bush has had the opportunity to score political points in Texas by promulgating tough, extremely punitive new laws against drug users, he has been happy to do so."

http://www.stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/123/gorequestio...

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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 07:37 PM
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18. Did Anyone Notice The Bush Twins Bring This Up At The Convention?
"We spent the last four years trying to stay out of the spotlight. Sometimes we did a little better than others. We kept trying to explain to Dad that when we were young and irresponsible. Well, we were young and irresponsible."

http://www.gopconvention.com/cgi-data/speeches/files/7s0et47011snmsrcn9n7j8eub61fhz69.shtml


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