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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 04:44 AM
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You know what 2 new Republican governors gets you in Washington? Jack shit.
Governors running a state at this point in time are going to have their hands full trying to make payroll. The fact that incumbents are often blamed for economic conditions they have no control over is well known. Many governors are likely to suffer defeat in 2010. whether Dem or Republican.

But in the end....what does that mean for Washington D.C. power? Not a hell of a lot. Meanwhile, Dems increased their numbers by 1 in the house. Right wing extremism was repudiated at the polls. GOP centrism was rewarded.

Let's hope the fucktard Rethuglicans don't get that message.
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Craftsman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 04:48 AM
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1. But they get a lot of say in redistricting in 2011.
Remeber when TX redistricted out 5 or so dem reps? It is long term money in the bank and watch the blue dogs from VA move to the right.
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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 05:03 AM
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2. no they don't. that is a matter for state legislatures.
Remember too the mastermind behind that breach of justice in Texas got his mug shot, got drummed out of office, and broke his feet dancing with the stars.
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Craftsman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 05:55 AM
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4. A few points,
Delay has never been brought to trail and probably never will

The govenors can sign or veto these redistrictings so they have a say.

If jobs are still lacking in 2010 as I think they will be these and many other rep ovs willl have rep legislatures to do redistricting.

These to govenors are money in the bank for 2012.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 07:02 AM
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6. that depends on the state
to take one example, Ohio redistricts with a board that has 7 appointees. The governor, auditor, attorney general, the majority and minority leaders of the state house and the majority and minority leaders of the state senate. Thus you get control of the board by winning 2 out of 3 of the listed executive offices.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 08:17 AM
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13. The NJ governor has no say in redistricting.
The Redistricting Commission is responsible for drawing congressional district boundaries. The commission is made up of 13 members. The speaker of the General Assembly, the president of the senate, the minority leaders of both houses and the chairpersons of the two largest political parties in the state must each appoint two members. The thirteenth member is chosen by majority vote of the appointed twelve. The 10-member Apportionment Commission handles state legislative districts. Its members are chosen evenly by the chairpersons of the two largest political parties in the state. There is no gubernatorial veto power for either the state or congressional plans.


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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 10:47 AM
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18. Maybe
But they still have to come to DC and congress for money.
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 05:47 AM
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3. Up here in little ole liberal Massachusetts, 4 of our last 5 governors have been Republicant
It is just the way it works. Republicants have a hard time running for national and state legislature but for some reason they do well for governor. And we don't go all RW with them in.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 08:11 AM
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11. As in Connecticut. We have Jodi Rell...and Joe Lieberman.
I actually like Jodi Rell better then Holy Joe. How sad is that? At least she has acted like she always was what she said she was, a moderate Republican.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 10:27 AM
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16. I know why.
It's because none of our House delegation seems inclined to run for Governor, unlike in other states where the U.S. House is often the breeding ground for governors. The reason for that? The state congress is so lock-solid that they're the defacto governor, regardless of whom is actually running the show. It's actually more powerful to be a US Rep in Massachusetts than a Governor, and they all know it. Plus, it's something they can do forever and they can keep the seat with little to no effort.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 06:48 AM
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5. there is a heck of a message for the Dems however in how the Indies are feeling right now
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 07:07 AM
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7. Governors races aren't critical and the media know it
we had a GOP gov in this state before it went back to Dems.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 07:33 AM
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8. ..without the "Jack"
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tabbycat31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 07:51 AM
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9. the stakes are high in New Jersey
First of all there's the redistricting. Second of all Frank Lautenberg better stay healthy enough to serve out his term. We don't want Christie replacing him with a RWer
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 08:12 AM
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12. There is a Dem controlled Senate and State Assembly however.
Edited on Wed Nov-04-09 08:16 AM by Jennicut
Who makes the final call regarding redistricting? If it needs to pass in those two chambers it might not work out for Repubs.


On edit, I looked it up and wikipedia says this:


The New Jersey Redistricting Commission is a constitutional body of the government of New Jersey. Like Arizona, Idaho, Hawaii, Montana, and Washington; the redistricting is completed within an independent, bipartisan commission. The apportionment of members of the Redistricting Commission is carefully balanced between legislative and executive majorities and is purposefully titled to allow the minority party an equal amount of seats on the commission.
New Jersey Congressional Districts. Note that in the 2008 elections, Democrat John Adler picked up the 3rd district from a retiring Republican.
“ 1. (a) After each federal census taken in a year ending in zero, the Congressional districts shall be established by the New Jersey Redistricting Commission.

The commission shall consist of 13 members, none of whom shall be a member or employee of the Congress of the United States. The members of the commission shall be appointed with due consideration to geographic, ethnic and racial diversity and in the manner provided herein.
(b) There shall first be appointed 12 members as follows:

(1) two members to be appointed by the President of the Senate;
(2) two members to be appointed by the Speaker of the General Assembly;
(3) two members to be appointed by the minority leader of the Senate;
(4) two members to be appointed by the minority leader of the General Assembly; and
(5) four members, two to be appointed by the chairman of the State committee of the political party whose candidate for the office of Governor received the largest number of votes at the most recent gubernatorial election and two to be appointed by the chairman of the State committee of the political party whose candidate for the office of Governor received the next largest number of votes in that election.

Appointments to the commission under this subparagraph shall be made on or before June 15 of each year ending in one and shall be certified by the respective appointing officials to the Secretary of State on or before July 1 of that year.
Each partisan delegation so appointed shall appoint one of its members as its chairman who shall have authority to make such certifications and to perform such other tasks as the members of that delegation shall reasonably require.

(c) There shall then be appointed one member, to serve as an independent member, who shall have been for the preceding five years a resident of this State, but who shall not during that period have held public or party office in this State.
The independent member shall be appointed upon the vote of at least seven of the previously appointed members of the commission on or before. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Jersey_Redistricting_Commission


So it could still benefit the Dems in NJ.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 08:17 AM
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14. See reply 13 re: NJ redistricting
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Rwalsh Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 08:05 AM
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10. You get Christie & McDonnell
being able to appoint Republican Senators.

In VA, there are no special elections. Appointed senators get to serve out the rest of the term of the one they're replacing.

In NJ, the law says the Governor can but doesn't have to call for special elections.

That's what you get.

Link: http://www.cga.ct.gov/2009/rpt/2009-R-0018.htm

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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 08:20 AM
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15. True, but the only Senator who's old enough to be concerned about is NJ Sen. Lautenberg.
So far as we know, Sen. Lautenberg is a good health despite his age.


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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 10:29 AM
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17. Corizines ties to GS didnt help him and Deeds was going to opt out of PubOption as Gov...
...I didn't expect much from them
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budkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 10:58 AM
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19. REPUBLICAN REVOLUTION!!!
yeah right...
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