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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 02:41 PM
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From Firedoglake - a point by point rebuttal of Eshoo's article defending her amendment

http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/11/02/uaem-and-amsa-respond-to-rep-eshoo-point-by-point/

UAEM and AMSA Respond to Rep. Eshoo – Point by Point
By: Ethan Guillen, Chris Manz, and Sarah Rimmington Monday November 2, 2009 6:02 am

From: The AffordableMedsNow Campaign of Universities Allied for Essential Medicines (UAEM) and the American Medical Student Association (AMSA) http://affordablemedsnow.com/ and Essential Action’s Access to Medicines Project www.essentialaction.org/access

Re: Responding the October 30, 2009 Huffington Post article by Rep. Anna Eshoo, “Setting the Record Straight on Our Health Care Legislation”

Date: November 1, 2009

Below are some of the key assertions made by Rep. Eshoo in her recent blog post, followed by our responses to them.



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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 02:42 PM
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1. Cool beans. Thanks for posting.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 02:51 PM
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2. The problem is that information doesn't rebut Eshoo's
Eshoo: It’s important to note that today there is absolutely no restriction on data exclusivity — it’s effectively infinite. Competitors are never permitted to use the data produced by a brand-name biologic manufacturer. The Kennedy-Eshoo legislation brings this exclusivity down from forever to 12 years, in essence laying the groundwork for the creation of the biosimilar industry, new competition for the biotechnology industry, and reduced prices for patients.

Response: It is true that there is currently no pathway to make generic biologics. However, we need a pathway that will work, not one that will introduce so many barriers that the pathway will seldom be used.

That was the whole point of Hamsher's claim that the bill represents a "death sentence." In fact, it's an improvement.

Here's a current diary (by someone affiliated with FDL) My Rebuttal To Rep. Eshoo's Rebuttal To Jane Hamsher, which also doesn't rebut Eshoo on the evergreening clause, but basically says that the Waxman amendment is better. Far cry from "a death sentence."

Seems the whole issue has nothing to do with the fact that Eshoo's bill is an improvement, but everything to do the 12-year period. The diary offers this:

Also, Sherrod Brown is looking to bring up his amendment which reduces the number of years of data exclusivity for PhRMA from 12 to 7 years, which is what the compromise position of the WH initially was, and he wants to know if he'll get support on his amendment, so please call his office and ask him to bring his amendment to the Senate floor.

Yes, seven years is better than 12 years, but again, the "death sentence" claim was obviously over-the-top, especially since FDL admits there is no current pathway.



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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 03:02 PM
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3. It says that a large loophole was left in the Eshoo bill that WOULD allow
evergreening if a "modification to the structure" was made, which they seem to feel would be relatively easy to do.

I thought their piece was compelling as was the Time magazine article I linked for you in that other thread. The point is, that the Eshoo amendment is worse in many ways that would directly affect consumers than the Waxman amendment it beat out.I thank heavens that Jane Hamsher blew the whistle on it so that it is getting the additional scrutiny I think it needs.

I don't know Jane Hamsher and I don't know Anna Eshoo and I don't have any reason to favor one over the other except based on the facts as I am able to read them.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 03:12 PM
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5. It's a misinterpretation:
Eshoo: “And because of an ‘evergreening’ clause that grants drug companies a continued monopoly if they make slight changes to the drug (like creating a once-a-day dose where the original product was three times per day), they will never become generics.”

“There is no ‘evergreening’ clause in my legislation. There is in fact an ‘anti-evergreening’ clause which explicitly provides no new exclusivity period would be granted for “a change (not including a modification to the structure of the biological product) that results in a new indication, route of administration, dosing schedule, dosage form, delivery system, delivery device, or strength.” My amendment prohibits by its plain language exactly what Ms. Hamsher alleges it would encourage.”

Response: The short answer is that the language highlighted by Rep. Eshoo does exactly the opposite of what she says it does: it preserves an evergreening option so long as there is a structural modification made to the biologic, which in the bill is an easy standard to meet. By contrast, Rep. Waxman and Sen. Schumer’s bills show what you’d do if you were trying to avoid evergreening.

The longer rebuttal follows: The clause Representative Eshoo refers to does appear on its face to exclude changes that result in a new indication, route of administration, dosing schedule, dosage form, delivery system, delivery device, or strength from being eligible for a new 12-year exclusivity period. Unfortunately, her understanding of how the language operates is incorrect. The existence of the language in the bracket “(not including a modification to the structure of the biological product)”—actually does create a huge evergreening loophole. If you look closely at the tricky language of the sentence you will see that changes to biologics that result in new indications, routes, dosing schedules, delivery systems, strengths, etc., are ineligible for another 12- year exclusivity period under the Eshoo approach only if they come about without a modification to the structure of the product.

In other words, if a company makes a modification to the structure of the already approved biologic that results in a new indication or any of the other items listed, they will be eligible for a brand new 12-year exclusivity period. Unfortunately, because the term “structural modifications” is not defined, interpretation is open to a very wide range of possible changes that will qualify for a brand new 12-year monopoly, many of which are relatively simple and inexpensive to do, and which do not change a drug in any material way.

Of course, these modifications may offer small or significant patient benefits. But because they are typically easy and inexpensive to design, brand-name firms do not need the lure of protracted monopolies to make these minor modifications.

A key example of the types of modifications that would qualify for a new 12-year monopoly under the Eshoo approach is a process called PEGylaton, which will result in increased safety or a new dosing schedule, route, form, or delivery system. PEGylating a protein is a relatively inexpensive and easily performed structural modification (compared to changing the underlying amino acid structure of the biologic).

Example: Oncaspar is a PEGylated from of L-asparaginase used for the treatment of acute lymphoblastic leukemia. It is used in patients who are hypersensitive to the un-PEGylated form of L-aparaginase. The PEGylated product Oncaspar is now is being encouraged by the company for first line use instead of the older, un-PEGylated versions.<2>

It should also be noted that the Eshoo language does not require a change to the amino acid structure of the biologic — the scientific definition of a truly new medicine — in order to allow a brand product to obtain a new 12-year monopoly.

For your convenience, I have reproduced below the language of the relevant provision from the Eshoo-Barton-Inslee Biologics Amendment adopted by the House Energy & Commerce Committee in their healthcare reform bill in July 2009 in its entirety. (Note that this amendment is identical to that which was adopted by the Senate Health Education Labor and Pensions committee as part of its healthcare reform bill in July 2009)

Section 7(C): Products not eligible for 12 years exclusivity and filing moratorium.

“7(A) and (B) shall not apply to a license for or approval of-

i. a supplement for the biological product that is the reference product; or

ii. a subsequent application filed by the same sponsor or manufacturer of the biological product that is the reference product) or a licensor, predecessor in interest, or other related entity) for

(I) a change (not including a modification to the structure of the biological product) that results in a new indication, route of administration, dosing schedule, dosage form, delivery system, delivery device, or strength; or

(II) a modification to the structure of the biological product that does not result in a change in safety, purity or potency.”


Translation: Subsequent applications filed by the same sponsor or manufacturer are eligible for 12 years market exclusivity and filing moratorium for products that have a structural modification that results in either:

II) A new indication, route, dosing schedule, form, delivery system, delivery device, or strength; or

II) Improved safety, purity, or potency.

Only if the changes that result in the items listed in point I or II are not accompanied by a change to the structural modification are they ineligible for the 12-year exclusivity period. As explained above, it will be very easy for brand companies to make simple and inexpensive structural modifications to many biologics that result in new dosage forms, strength, etc. Thus Eshoo’s understanding of her own amendment’s language is incorrect.




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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 03:15 PM
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6. What exactly is a misinterpretation and who is doing the misinterpreting? nt
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 03:28 PM
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7. Eshoo's point is clear and doesn't deviate from the bill
Edited on Mon Nov-02-09 03:29 PM by ProSense
Hamsher makes the claim that this is a loophole, fine, but the Eshoo measure could simply be for safety reasons. Still, Waxman's amendment may be better and Sherrod Brown's seven-year period an improvement over Eshoo's bill, but why does it take hyperbole in the form of declaring the bill a "death sentence" to point out the benefits of one bill over another, when all are improvements over the current situation? The loophole issue is debatable, but it's not the end of the world.




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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 03:41 PM
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8. Hamsher is not the one writing , first of all.
Eshoo's point is clear and doesn't deviate from the bill? Saftey reasons?

Eshoo says her bill doesn't allow evergreening and everyone else says it does, that's a pretty big deviation. Evergreening is the method that drug companies use to thwart cheaper genrics from being developed and made available at a highly reduced costs and for some people it IS a life and death issue even though you may chose to discount that.

I don't think we need to continue our discussion. People can read for themselves: Hamshers original piece , Eshoos rebuttal in Huffington and now this rebuttal to the rebuttal.

I'm going to post for everyone else (I know you've seen it) the Time article which has the big picture overview.

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1931595-1,00.html
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 03:08 PM
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4. This is nothing but a scam to extend monopoly pricing
wrapped up with a lot of pretty sounding reforms.

How about turning the tables on PhARMA- doing what corporations and their reps constantly do to ordinary Americans. Pass the innocuous reforms implement them now- and then revisit the patent extensions in a couple of years- if they turn out to be a problem

Or make them wait to kick in until 2013- and don't enact the give away if it turns out not to be a problem.
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 09:07 PM
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10. +1
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 09:02 PM
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9. Update - here is Hamshers own personal response
http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/11/02/the-devil-in-anna-eshoos-details/
The Devil in Anna Eshoo’s Details
By: Jane Hamsher Monday November 2, 2009 11:58 am
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 12:24 PM
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11. knr thanks nt
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