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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-29-09 10:29 PM Original message |
Buy health insurance or face up to a year in jail |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-29-09 10:30 PM Response to Original message |
1. Somebody will challenge the mandate in court and win |
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hokies (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 01:18 AM Response to Reply #1 |
10. No chance in hell they would win in court |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 04:08 PM Response to Reply #10 |
36. Deleted message |
hokies (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 04:27 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. "douchebag"? LOL is that the best you can do? |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 11:38 AM Response to Reply #1 |
27. Why hasn't anyone done that in Massachusettes? |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 04:03 PM Response to Reply #27 |
35. State Constitution has different powers than Federal. |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-01-09 10:56 AM Response to Reply #35 |
48. Upon which judicial precedent do you base your assertion regarding the commerce clause? |
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hokies (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 04:20 PM Response to Reply #27 |
38. Because it would lose and lose royally. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-02-09 09:55 PM Response to Reply #27 |
49. Anyone else notice how Freddie only asks questions? Never tells his views. |
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Mojambo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-29-09 10:30 PM Response to Original message |
2. I'd be worried about prison rape, but what are the chances I'll be sharing a cell with Polanski. n/t |
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droidamus2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-29-09 10:32 PM Response to Original message |
3. Just stupid |
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Knight Hawk (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-01-09 05:26 AM Response to Reply #3 |
47. The Answer |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-29-09 10:33 PM Response to Original message |
4. I can't believe you posted this. So provide a link where |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-29-09 10:43 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. I provided a link to the story |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 12:58 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. This is a LIE. n/t |
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CalvinandHobbes (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 03:43 AM Response to Reply #7 |
16. Tell us why nt |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 11:33 AM Response to Reply #7 |
25. That's the new shorthand for "I'm dismayed by that information." nt |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 12:05 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. .... |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 03:09 PM Response to Reply #7 |
33. How so?? |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 07:02 AM Response to Reply #5 |
21. Not a reputable link. How about NYT, WP, or other mainstream pubs, please. |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 03:21 AM Response to Reply #4 |
14. What if one of your family or friends ended up in jail because of no health insurance? |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 01:59 PM Response to Reply #14 |
31. Actually, they would have better access to care in jail. n/t |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 12:58 AM Response to Original message |
6. BULLSHIT. "Sec 7203 of the Code": |
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LooseWilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 01:14 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Umm, your link supports the allegations in the OP. |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 01:41 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. That link is TAX code, not the health care bill. n/t |
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joeglow3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 10:48 AM Response to Reply #12 |
24. The "penalty" is defined as an EXCISE TAX in the bill, so it would apply |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 11:35 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Excise taxes are taxes paid... |
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joeglow3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 01:40 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. You might want to check that again. |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 01:58 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Taxes on nonqualified deferred compensation |
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joeglow3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 03:06 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Geez, are you interested in being a tax CPA? |
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hokies (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 01:17 AM Response to Original message |
9. no discrimination against pre-existing conditions = individual mandate |
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ipaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 03:03 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. And on what planet are insurance companies going to |
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hokies (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 03:28 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Are you against discrimination based on pre-existing conditions? |
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ipaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 10:28 AM Response to Reply #15 |
23. Your post is about ignoring the history of our for profit ins. industry. |
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hokies (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 08:04 PM Response to Reply #23 |
41. I'm still not clear. Do you or do you not favor exclusion based on pre-existing conditions? |
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ipaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 09:39 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. It should have been outlawed years ago. |
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hokies (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 11:01 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. no discrimination against pre-existing conditions = individual mandate |
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ipaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-01-09 01:12 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. No it doesn't. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 06:06 AM Response to Reply #9 |
17. Fuck that. Not without cost controls on insurance companies |
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hokies (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 06:23 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Actually, I would prefer single-payer |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 06:29 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Fucking over older people with age discrimination is jolly well not on my table |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 06:29 AM Response to Reply #9 |
19. But it's bullshit unless there's a public plan |
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hokies (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 04:18 PM Response to Reply #19 |
37. Even the public plan being discussed will only cover a small percentage of Americans |
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quakerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-01-09 02:29 AM Response to Reply #9 |
46. mandate+no competition=complete economic meltdown |
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sohndrsmith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 01:27 AM Response to Original message |
11. Goofy. My health would improve if I spent a year in jail. No, I'm not kidding. n/t |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 09:10 AM Response to Original message |
22. not. going. to. happen. if you believe that, you'll believe anything. |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 03:13 PM Response to Original message |
34. I don't understand the logic in that because even prisoners aren't denied basic health care. |
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rvablue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
40. Well, if they do this, we can kiss goodbye both houses of Congress in 2010 |
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prolesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 09:10 PM Response to Original message |
42. Can be and will be are very different |
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