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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 10:34 PM
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What if Our Worst Fears are True? Why the Bush-Nazi Ties Matter: Hitler
What if Our Worst Fears are True?
Why the Bush-Nazi Ties Matter: Hitler

by Seventhson (Special to www.democraticunderground.com)


Over and over again the historic financial ties between Prescott Bush, GHWalker (the Presidents' grandfather and great grandfather and namesake), Brown Brothers Harriman, Allen Dulles, and other eugenicists and Anglo-German titans of Wall Street have been well established.

It is no longer an unproven conspiracy theory to say that the Bushes helped bring Hitler to power and helped him finance not only the Nazi party but the entire German Nazi war machine in WWII.

It is now well established that the Bushes had financial interests and political alliances with Hitler and the Third Reich which continued well into WWII when they were actually prosecuted under the "Trading with the Enemies Act" and said to be "Hitler's Angels" as his New York/Wall Street money men.

We need only read the writings of John Loftus (at John_Loftus.com) or Robert Lederman or John Buchanan to see the documentation and the sources for these truths.

Of course the Kerry and Edwards campaign are unlikely to discuss this publicly as they, like Gore, are afraid it will blow up in their faces as further smear.

But it is a story which MUST be told by someone.

As a historical researcher studying the Holocaust and the antifascist resistance in WWII (and before) I have studied the writings of some brilliant scholars.

But today I found some of the most frightening and chilling quotes and positions of Adolf Hitler.

I found them in a book called "A History of National Socialism" by a German anti-Nazi whose name we should all know: as he has given the world some of the BEST writings on what we are facing today - altho he wrote his words some 70 years ago during the rise of Hitler to perhaps the most horrific dictatorship history has ever seen.


Konrad Heiden.

He also wrote the definitive biography and analysis of Hitler entitled "Der Fuhrer"

If you have not read these books then you are NOT prepared for what is coming under the rule of the Bush family if we are not successful in November.

I MUST share the words I discovered today which chilled me to the bone (when considered with the full understanding that when these words were spoken there was ALREADY an alliance between Americans on Wall Street and Hitler - which alliances included the Bushes and Walkers - the "Dubyas").


They occur on pages 126 and 127 of Heiden's book: "A History of National Socialism" (Alfred A. Knopf, NY, 1935)

Hitler is quoted by Heiden as saying:

"...ur task is to undertake an immense organization of the whole world in which each land will produce what it requires most and in which the white race - the Nordic race - shall take the leading part in administering and carrying out the vast plan. Believe me, National Socialism would not be worth anything if it were to be confined to Germany and did not secure the rule of the superior race over the whole world for at least one or two thousand years."

"The great masses of workmen want nothing else than bread and amusement; they have no understanding of idealism; and we can never count upon being able to gain any considerable support among them. What we want is a picked number from the new ruling class, who...are not troubled with humanitarian feelings but who are convinced that they have the right to rule as being a superior race, and who will secure and maintain their rule ruthlessly over the broad masses."

Heiden continues:

" Hitler added that an understanding with England was in the interests of Germany, because it was necessary to establish a Nordic-Germanic hegemony in Europe, AND IN CONJUNCTION WITH NORDIC-GERMANIC AMERICA OVER THE WHOLE WORLD."


!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

At the time these words were spoken (before 1935) the Bushes and Walkers and Harrimans and Dulleses and Morgans and Rockefellers were ALREADY busily raising money to buy a piece of Hitler's 1000-2000 year REICH.

This book of Heiden's was published in 1935.

The Bushes were still financing Hitler as late as 1942!!!

According to research of John Loftus and John Buchanan and others, the Bushes never STOPPED their support of Hitler during the war but in fact merely covered their tracks with investments in Dutch and Swiss banks and other places where Nazi industrial operations could still reap them profits and a toe-hold on Hitler's plan for a "Nordic Germanic American Hegemony over the whole world" using the methodologies of Hitler's "ruthless" terror and fear and untroubled by "humanitarian feelings".

THIS is what emerged from WWII.

Emergent Bush-Nazi Racist Global American Hegemony


History 101 is now over.

Please pass this along













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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 10:47 PM
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1. There are even worse fears being revealed imho, seventhson.
Spiritual wickedness in high places...for real...
true evil...
It's here today.
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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 10:56 PM
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2. I am almost certain they never intended for Germany to lose.
Now wth the japanese, well that is a racial concern. But these are fascist at heart as well as monopolists and crooks. I have not a doubt they cared about the holocost either beyond lip service.

Its unfortunate for the chimp that there are so many democratic instutitions standing in the way of the exercise of absolute authority, but rest assured they are working hard to remedy this.
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lanparty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 11:00 PM
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4. Bush all but spoke his mind ...

"A dictatorship would be a lot easier. Just so long as I'm the dictator!!!!"

How could ANYONE vote for a man who spoke those words even in jest.

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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 11:08 PM
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5. How do you know the dick-tater was jesting.
maybe that was his version of Mien Kampf.
He won't have a clue what his henchpeople are doing and nor will he care.
There are enough intellectual amoebas out there to flock to what percieved myth gives them the most comfort.... sheeple.
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lanparty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 11:10 PM
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7. I don't think he was joking ...
...

I think this was one of his occasional arrogant slipups when he says whats REALLY on his mind.

My point is that even if he is joking, what kind of mind thinks up that kind of joke??? What kind of public statesman would repeat something like that???

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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 11:27 PM
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11. What kind of mind says that ? What kind of public statesman ?
I would think maybe a prison guard in the Texas penal system who rides a horse, wears mirrored sunglasses and bullies the felons bent over on the rows picking cotton. And you bet he is hoping one of them will run so he can relieve the boredom by shooting someone in the back. some one with a huge inferrority complex.
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 11:07 AM
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17. No kind of public statesman says this. Pm;y an ignorant fascist
lifted to power on the wings of the Holocaust profits.
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 11:09 AM
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18. No kind of public statesman says this. Only an ignorant fascist
Edited on Sun Sep-19-04 11:12 AM by seventhson
lifted to power on the wings of wretched Holocaust profits and depravity.
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lanparty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 10:59 PM
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3. Chief Justice Scalia ...
... his father was a rabid fascist. Little Anthony attended a boarding school for the children of fascists. I would LOVE to hear their school song!!!!


I'm not sure that these guys were ever into the whole jewish/racism aspect of Hitler. I think they were in it for rule by the elite and powerful. I think they wanted to see the eradication of Democracy. And I would bet my place in heaven that Prescott Bush was involved in the DuPont coup attempt against FDR.

The 30s were the golden age for the gentried elite. They had ALL the wealth. Investment was of no consequence since there was nothing to gain from a population in poverty. They had a limitless supply of labor for their personal amusement and gratification.

The rich had achieved their personal dream in the 30s. They nearly reduced this country to a feudalist society in which only the aristocracy had rights. Those of "low birth" could be beaten, cast aside and abused at will by the gentry. People would be virtual captives to the land since little or no transportation would be available.

Oh how it slipped through their hands. Ohh, how Adolf Coors set out to restore the glories of the 30s to our land.

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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 11:13 PM
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8. I understand the USA was in danger of a revolt if the depression
continued unabaited. We'd have become the USSSA if we were not too careful.
When elites get too greedy and powerful they start looking like the Bourbons or he Rominovs to the masses.

This is why this nitwit Grover Norquist worries me. Given a free hand he will take things too far,past a point of no return.
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 02:50 AM
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16. They almost overthrew FDR
But we have instead become the Fourth Reich
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Nordic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 11:08 PM
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6. and don't forget this
It's been a day of realizing the parallels between Nazi Germany and Bush's America.

There was this other thread that started with this quote:

"History tells us that the rise of militant fascism in Germany during the 1930s did not draw worried notice from European news outlets - radio and newspapers - because those media entities were owned by chemical and steel interests that were reaping the profits from Germany's explosive military buildup. Only when it was too late did the alarm bell begin to sound. This we call a conflict of interest, and a damned deadly one."

From "The Greatest Sedition is Silence," by William Rivers Pitt, page 122.
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 11:15 PM
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9. I just posted this at the Kerry-Edwards Forum
I would love it if you would check it out there and weigh in.

If the Dems do not GET this then we will be in BIG trouble if Bush steals another election.

Thanks for the comments all.


Go here, register and comment please on this and anything else there (it is a great site but not as great as this one):

http://forum.johnkerry.com/index.php?showtopic=77554
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 11:58 PM
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15. THIS IS WHY WE MAY LOSE - post was KILLED at Kerry online forum
must be a Bushie moderator or someone who never heard of Santayana
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not systems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 11:16 PM
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10. Sound like you better head over to...
http://spitfirelist.com/ftr.html

and check out

FTR-273 "B" as in "Bush," "B" as in "Bormann"

You can find the audio here

http://archive.wfmu.org:5555/archive/DX/

as

dx-FTR-273a

and

dx-FTR-273b



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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 11:42 PM
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12. amazing sources and links for those who want the real deal. Thanks!
It is good to see many of the original documents cited by Loftus and Buchanan
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 11:48 PM
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14. Eugenics is depraved
and demented.

But the right to have kids is a human right and this isn't too funny.

I get it.

But I don't really want it.
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 02:05 PM
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19. Propaganda
Edited on Sun Sep-19-04 02:08 PM by seventhson
I posted this on another thread.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x840768

Who said this and why is it important?

{____________} "defines it (propaganda)as:

'to influence large masses of the people, to concentrate on a few essential points, never to allow these to be lost sight of, to enunciate principles in the form of categorical statement, to exercise the greatest possible patience in disseminating ideas, and to be infinitely patient in awaiting results.'"

Anyone who guesses it right and identifies the source gets a private dumail from me thanking them for paying attention.

But please guess anyway and I will get back to you with the answers.

It is an easy one.



Another great find from ( ) who captured the Bush spirit remarkably well considering they were only beginning to get their bloody hands wet in the entrails of European dead.
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