Dems worried about 2M tea party turnout??

[babylonsister]

I wonder how many outhouses have been reserved?

http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/political-media/pelosi-dems-bracing-for-huge-turnout-at-glenn-becktea-party-gathering/

Pelosi, Dems Bracing For Huge Turnout At Glenn Beck/Tea Party Gathering


Looks like there’s serious concern among Dems about the big 9/12 rally that’s being heavily promoted by Glenn Beck, Fox, and the tea partiers for tomorrow.

A top aide to Nancy Pelosi has emailed a memo to Dem aides on the Hill and outside liberal groups warning they should brace for a turnout of up to two million people, suggesting Dems worry that if enough conservatives descend on the Mall it will amount to a major PR victory for the right.

The aide, Doug Thornell, warned in the memo that the dust-up over Joe “you lie” Wilson has been invigorating conservatives. “It looks like Saturday’s event is going to be a huge gathering, estimates ranging from hundreds of thousands to 2 million people,” Thornell wrote in the memo, which was forwarded by a source.

In another sign of concern, the memo painstakingly detailed a range of turnout predictions from the event’s organizers, such as this one from tea party leaders promising a crowd of up to 1,000,000.

Adding to Dem concern is the fact that Beck recently claimed a major victory in the ouster of former green jobs adviser Van Jones.

The House leadership memo predicting huge turnout could have been written in hopes that it would leak and inflate expectations for turnout, anticipating that it will fall far short. But Dems on the Hill insist they’re genuinely worried about what tomorrow will bring.

[David__77]

1. Lol...

I don't think so; in any event it doesn't matter if handled properly. This health care thing definitely needs to wrap up soon though. If the votes are there, do it; if not pass what we can and declare victory.

[Bobbieo]

9. How many of those people will be amed?

[Golden Raisin]

11. And wearing white sheets?

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[LynnTheDem]

92. Republics are the stupidest MFers on the planet.

Don't you agree?

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[EarlG]

2. Two million?

Lol. Somehow I don't think so.

[liberal N proud]

7. Since it is a right wing rally, you know the reported numbers

will be double the actual numbers.

[Kerrytravelers]

16. The number that's reported will actually be how many porta-potties are present.

That's the way the rw rolls.

[Ikonoklast]

18. Oh, they mean two *million*.

I read it as a two-man teabag party.

Which makes more sense, as far as I could tell.

[MNDemNY]

24. No, "minion"

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

38. *thumbs up*

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Nicely done!

[Critters2]

85. So, two minion would be like 20. Right? nt

[Ikonoklast]

94. Actually, I think that's a unit of measurement kind of like a 'peck'.

So, there will be quite a few peckers at that meet-up tomorrow.

[kimmerspixelated]

58. Is your avatar just a joke?

[uponit7771]

3. There's a lot of advertising for it and I would be embarassed if the dems didn't lablel them kooks..

..but if they do turn out millions then we should be ashamed and I wouldn't blame Obama for being disappointed in the grass roots movement for not doing it first and in those numbers

[Inuca]

12. You have a good point

this SHOULD have been a left wing march, not the loonie right. Unfortunately, they seem to have more fire than our side for now. Much of the left enthusiasm and activism seems to have been exhausted by the election. It's only natural in a way I guess, but unfortunate nevertheless.

[Critters2]

67. We did do it first, and in good numbers.

On election night and at his inauguration.

[MNDemNY]

4. Shall we meet "at the barricades"???

[create.peace]

21. but with backs turned to them!...if i were there, my attitude.

starting with liberal, progressive, democratic sites absolutely not mentioning them or posting their insane faces and signs....what do you think...?

[MNDemNY]

22. I'd rather be not be shot in the back.

[create.peace]

27. then don't go....another way to ignore.nt

[MNDemNY]

29. Not sure "ignoring " is a good option.

[create.peace]

30. so you are going there to jeer them on? i am not saying to remain ignorant of them, i mean to not

give them the notoriety they crave....

[MNDemNY]

31. Maybe the "tipping point" must be found.

[create.peace]

34. you mean you intend confrontation....serious question.nt

[MNDemNY]

72. See you there.

[create.peace]

77. I won't be there, but if I were, I would turn my back on them.

I have been in the midst of their violence, I was with Carlos Arredondo in Sept 2007, when the Gathering of Eagles, the Freepers, etc, were absolutely itching for a fight. Carlos did go after them when one grabbed a photo of Alex. This is one of two times a year that for our art/craft, we must be at a mineral show. If it weren't for that, we might have been spending most of the month in dc, as I have done before. We live in Kansas, so I can't just run down there tomorrow and back to Denver Sunday....report back.

[bluestateguy]

5. The hand wringers strike again

And 1 million people showed up in New York City in 1982 to call for a nuclear freeze. That did sooooo much good.

[boppers]

17. Nuclear freeze?

They wanted to stop.... atoms?

[Warren Stupidity]

6. Are we losing to Stupid and The Loons?

It is sure starting to look that way. If Stupid and The Loons can turn out 2,000,000 I think we may be in serious trouble.

[Inuca]

8. I am worried too

and sick only thinking of the gloating that Beck and company will indulge in after the fact.

[ShortnFiery]

10. When they reported on that pissant, Eric Cantor (R-VA), pontificating to the early "crowd" ...

the M$M didn't dare show the people, which by the sound magnitude of the boos, were at least two dozen. :eyes: They merely showed the top portion of the signs these MorAns held up.

Astroturf? Indeed! :evilgrin:

[Kerrytravelers]

13. I'm, personally, not too worried.

It's all rw hype and bluster.

Check out the fall-out from that ugly display of Wilson:

Poll Finds Wilson Vulnerable, in dead heat with Miller (D). 62% disapprove of "You lie" outbust.

Former Bushie Mark McKinnon sends $1000 to Rob Miller, volunteers to start "Republicans for Miller"

PPP: Wilson in Trouble - Miller 44% v. 43% Wilson

[Inuca]

14. I hope you are right...

we shall see tomorrow, I hope it does not get TOO ugly.

[Inuca]

15. Not the same thing, but

isn't Obama having a rally in MN tomorrow more or less at the same time? Does anyone know more about this?

[Hansel]

53. Target center with the capacity of 20,000

I will be there, probably on the outside with the nut jobs because I have to work in the morning. It will be interesting to see how big the overflow is. The DFL has been doing robo-calls and Klobuchar and Franken have been sending out invites.

[Vinnie From Indy]

19. I doubt that there will anywhere close to that number

If Pelosi is truly that worried, maybe she and other Democratic leaders should finally get off their collective asses and do something about it. The very first thing that they should do is recognize that there is a problem with the growth of the right wing hate machine and that they are not powerless. For example, why in the hell is Limbaugh still on the Armed Forces Radio Network? It is bizarre that there seems to be almost no effort beyond denying the vicious, dishonest, daily attacks by the likes of Beck and Limbaugh to address the right wing hate machine of Clear Channel, FOX News etc.

[DarthPortnoy]

20. Doubt it...

These peons won't show up. If there are three bus loads of theme there, it will be a big crowd. Most will stay at home watching it on FauxNews, sitting in their wife beaters drinking cheap beer.

This is SOOOOO not a news worthy item or anything to worry about.

[tularetom]

23. Nervous nellie Dems getting all scared about the Million Bubba March?

WtF is the matter with these people? There is no way there will be one tenth of that amount of people attending this clusterfuck.

And screw them if they're upset about Beck gloating about getting Van Jones fired. Beck did not fire Van Jones. The WH fired him. They handed Beck the victory that he claimed.

Bunch of spineless weenies.

[kimmerspixelated]

61. These are crazy folks! With guns!

I guarantee several will have guns!

[xxqqqzme]

66. I don't know - all those

provided busses. It is the first time most of them get to ride in something other than the short bus.

[DebbieCDC]

25. On the first real football weekend of fall you think 2 mil tea baggers

are going to give up their flat screens, beer and Doritos?

:rofl:

[GoCubsGo]

51. And, during a recession?

I doubt most of these nitwits can afford a trip to DC, let alone be capable of finding their way there in the first place.

[create.peace]

26. their code of conduct.....

http://www.resistnet.com/notes/Code_of_Conduct_for_DC_Events

II.1. No offensive, obscene, or paramilitary type clothing is to be worn before or during any sanctioned events.

[Hekate]

48. They just took all the fun out of the occasion for Bubba. What are they thinking? nt

[create.peace]

50. wonder if the 'gathering of eagles' can go, what with the wardrobe restrictions! nt

[ProSense]

28. OK, what's going on here? Is Thornell panicking or has he lost his mind?

More people than Obama's inauguration over a stupid incident that happened two days ago?

The inauguration turned out to be more than two million, but still.

[babylonsister]

32. I don't know. Maybe Dems are trying to draw attention to this

event, knowing it will be another miserable rethug failure?

[ProSense]

33. You could be right. n/t

[4lbs]

35. Two million? LMAO! That would be more than showed up for President Obama's inauguration!

If they truly, verifiably, get two million people to show up to that thing, I'll switch to the Republican party.

[Critters2]

68. If there were really going to be that many people there, one would already

have a sense of it. We'd all know someone planning to go, there'd be more anticipation of it in the media. I figure a few thousand at best.

[stevietheman]

36. Two ways to look at it, as far as I can tell...

1) This is a memo designed to vastly overestimate what will likely occur, so as to achieve a politically beneficial outcome for our side, or...

2) This is a bona fide warning that gives us all head's up to come up with a response. And I think the response should be "You guys ignored our marches on Iraq -- We are ignoring your march on health care -- Deal."

[JoePhilly]

37. I wish I could set up a Torch and Pitchfork Stand!!!!

Aren't they afraid that the government is going to take their photos and then send them to reeducation camps??

[Critters2]

71. That could be a money maker. nt

[Arugula Latte]

39. Whatever the turnout, we can count on this:

Someone in the crowd will have a hilariously stupid sign. Might even top this one:

[S_E_Fudd]

40. Not much on the local news here...and it appears authorities are not expecting that many...

From wtop.com

The Tea Party Express Rally and March will be held on Saturday, starting around 11 a.m. The march will proceed from Freedom Plaza to the National Mall, causing temporary street closures on Pennsylvania Avenue between 14th and 3rd Street NW.



If that many weer coming down there would be road closures all day, warnings about not coming downtown etc...

[jenmito]

41. CNN runs ads promoting it, too. n/t

[firedupdem]

52. didn't they have a booth set up at the last tea bagger party?

they are all full of shit.

[jenmito]

93. They had their CNN bus at one of them a couple days ago...

Ali Velchi was there covering it. :eyes:

[firedupdem]

100. I thought I remembered flipping channels and seeing that. So

they are truly becoming faux lite. Ridiculous, but what should we expect from the home of lou dobbs?

[babylonsister]

64. Are they really?

:wow: They're not even trying to hide their bias any longer.

Edit to add this:

http://mediamatters.org/blog/200909110032

Glenn Beck now setting the news agenda for CNN as well

[jenmito]

96. Yup...

I saw the ad for the big teabag party and I swore I must've been watching Faux, but it was CNN.

JEEZ! That's pathetic!

[Hutzpa]

42. Unless they bus them in Limos

but I can't see how that is possible....:shrug:

:evilgrin:

[TheCoxwain]

43. maybe I can use my distant uncle's crop duster and spray pesticides...

[WCGreen]

44. DC traffic on a good day is terrible...

Don't you think of a whole bunch of people would already be gathering and that there would be traffic snarls that would rival hurricane evacuations...

[Critters2]

69. Exactly. For the inauguration, there were already people heading there by this time

in advance. I figure a few thousand, tops.

[Sebastian Doyle]

45. This one might actually get a large turnout (though I doubt it would be 2 million)

Why? Because unlike the old Freeper rallies, the teabaggers are corporate sponsored by the DICK Arm(e)y, Koch Industries, PHaRMA, etc. And that kind of money can bus in a lot of idiots.

[countingbluecars]

46. DC Metro track maintenance is

scheduled for this weekend-inbound and outbound trains to take turns sharing one track. Poor freepers.

[Hekate]

47. Awww

:evilgrin:

[ShortnFiery]

57. If any of them are inconvenienced they'll claim "It's a socialist plot" to ruin their party.

:evilgrin:

[RamboLiberal]

49. Looks like they couldn't fill the armory today - Photos from TPM

Tea Party folk assemble in the DC Armory to listen to the likes of Sen. Inhofe, Dick Armey, and Sen. Jim DeMint (R-SC).


About 800 people showed up at the kickoff rally. Organizers are expecting huge crowds at Saturday's "March on Washington."




Wonder if this "Proud to be a Teabagger" would like to give up his veteran and Medicare benefits? After all isn't both those programs "socialist"?

[high density]

55. Maybe Jesus will take care of the veteran when his benes go belly up. NM

[RFKHumphreyObama]

107. Look at the cultural diversity in all those photos

Goodness, it looks like the whole United Nations has turned out with all the different races and cultures on display:sarcasm:

Seriously though, most of them look like ugly, hateful and quite possibly in a lot of cases bigoted people

[flpoljunkie]

54. USA Today article says 30,000 have signed up to attend on Freedom Works website.

By Emily Bazar, USA TODAY

Tens of thousands of conservative activists are preparing to descend on the nation's capital Saturday for a rowdy tea-party style protest, event planners say.

About 30,000 have signed up on the event's website to attend the march and rally and oppose what they call excessive government spending, says Adam Brandon, spokesman for FreedomWorks, a group that supports lower taxes and less government. Former House majority leader, Republican Dick Armey, is the organization's chairman.

More may show, Brandon says, and at least 450 tour buses will bring protesters from around the country.

Both the U.S. Capitol Police and the U.S. Park Police say they're boosting staffing for the event. They decline to provide crowd estimates.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-09-11-tax-rally_N.htm

[mzteris]

62. 450 buses =

about 22,500


Not eveyone who "signed up" will show up. Though there will probably be some who show up who didn't sign up

[TheKentuckian]

56. Who cares what they do? Its time to start busting them in the mouth

and treating them with contempt.

[Vinca]

59. If it is 2 million, it will be the biggest PR nightmare the Republicans

have ever seen. Imagine - they'll want to bring their assault rifles to Washington to protect their Hitler signs. Too bad their white sheets are going to get rained on.

[SWr]

60. oh no

Im supposed to visit my brother in D.C. tomorrow ... its gonna be a mess down there.

[MNDemNY]

73. Grab him and join us at the barricades!

[Critters2]

63. I'm beginning to fear that Beck has political aspirations.

And I really would be concerned about Hitler-esque tactics from him.

[Dr Fate]

65. I'm PRAYING that Glen Beck runs for office.

What better way to make even the farthest left Liberals appear moderate...

[CreekDog]

70. That's a lot of Lipton

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[noel711]

75. What's the weather report...?

It's POURING here in Pennsylvania,
and will continue to do so all weekend...

If this weather continues on the east coast,
I wonder how many of the tea baggers will brave
the deluge...

Just sayin'....

2 millions tea baggers in the rain.. that's a lotta tea on the Mall..

[Cha]

76. Anonymous sources? "Top aides"..I don't trust

any media story until verified.

[Beaverhausen]

78. Shouldn't that read "The House leadership memo predicting hugh turnout..."

I crack myself up. :rofl:

[hay rick]

79. The million moran march?

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[Critters2]

84. Are you there now, or did you miss your bus? nt

[Beaverhausen]

86. Just what is it you are protesting, anyway?

[Critters2]

89. Crickets. nt

[ima_sinnic]

87. you love trite cliches or something?

enjoy your short visit here, tourist.

[ima_sinnic]

95. aww, we hardly knew ye

:rofl:

[Critters2]

97. What part of "Democratic Underground is an online community for Democrats

other progressives. Members are expected to be generally supportive of progressive ideals, and to support Democratic candidates for political office" do they not understand?

:rofl:

[ima_sinnic]

98. apparently they think they have something SO devastating & clever to say

they do bwave widdle dwive-bys to assault us with their astounding insights and analysis.
I guess he told US!!!1!11!! :scared:

:rofl:

[Swede]

88. Where was this concern for freedom when Bush was President?

He ignored the Constitution and spend like a drunk sailor.

[Beaverhausen]

90. Did you think that those who protested the Iraq war were also Patriots?

[David Zephyr]

83. If GLBT and racial minorities showed up in number, those chicken shits wouldn't even come.

This rightwing crowd are a bunch of older, white bigots and like the KKK who wore hoods to hide their faces, they are cowards.

We should show up. They are not comfortable with gay people like me or with proud people of color. They are cowards.

[ima_sinnic]

91. huh--they were never "worried" about antiwar protestors for all those years

--what a bunch of bullshit.

In February 2003, 2 million people marched against the Iraq war in London as part of a worldwide protest in 800 cities:

On February 15, millions of people protested, in approximately 800 cities around the world. Listed by the 2004 Guinness Book of Records as the largest protest in human history, protests occurred among others in the United Kingdom, Italy, Spain, Germany, Switzerland, Ireland, the United States, Canada, Australia, South Africa, Syria, India, Russia, South Korea, Japan, and even McMurdo Station in Antarctica. The largest demonstration this day occurred in London, where 2,000,000 protesters (about 1 in 30 of the population) gathered in Hyde Park; speakers included the Reverend Jesse Jackson, London mayor Ken Livingstone, and Liberal Democrats leader Charles Kennedy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protests_against_the_Iraq_War

The fucking rube teabaggers put themselves in that class. Good luck with that, assholes. I can't wait to read about their ridiculous few dozen "patriots" "protesting" --what?

[KingFlorez]

99. If they were really worried, they wouldn't let it get out

I think this really is an attempt to raise expectations, I can't see a conservative cause bringing that many people. Many of them only like rant from their computer, getting up and going outside is too much work.

[sce56]

101. Yeah I'm going to a Party Tomorrow also!

Doubt I'll see many Right Wingers There!

[4dsc]

102. Never heard of it till now...

So no I'm not worried much..

[LaydeeBug]

103. Oh, I fully expect two million at their rally. nt

[mgcgulfcoast]

104. who cares??

lets ignore this and move forward.

[sce56]

105. So what happend to the 10.31 Project?

It will be Scare and Balance!
If you did not see that show I highly suggest you see it at the above posted link!

[lynne]

106. DC traffic Webcams are showing a packed house -

- link > http://www.trafficland.com/city/WAS/camera/9087/index.html

[whistler162]

108. Would be more worried if 2F's showed up

females is the more deadly of the species.