THIS IS NUTS. IS THIS GERMANY 1938 OR RUSSIA 1950 ?

[Pallas180]

and they're doing it again - "because we might have trouble before the elections" - right, when it looks too close as it does now that
Kerry might win.


http://www.wsws.org/articles/2004/aug2004/fbi-a18.shtml


FBI “anti-terror” task force targets Bush administration opponents
The Federal Bureau of Investigation has embarked on a large-scale operation to intimidate and attack opponents of the Bush administration’s war policy. In advance of the Democratic National Convention held earlier this month in Boston and the upcoming Republican convention in New York City, the FBI’s Joint Terrorism Task Force (JTTF) has mobilized agents to spy on, interrogate and threaten antiwar protesters and disrupt their activities.

In violation of basic democratic and Constitutional rights, the JTTF has placed under surveillance, and in some cases interviewed, dozens of people in at least six states about their antiwar views and actions. The JTTF’s measures have included visits to the homes and workplaces of antiwar activists, as well as to their friends and family members. In none of these cases was there any evidence of criminal activity—either committed or planned—on the part of the targeted individuals.

In keeping with Bush administration policy in the wake of the 9/11 terrorist attacks, the FBI claims the operation is warranted by the “war on terrorism,” and that this outweighs any abridgment of basic civil liberties, including the First Amendment right to free speech and association. The spying operation is, in fact, a revival of McCarthyite tactics, aimed at silencing opponents of government policy.

[autorank]

1. It's both!!! Great post. n/t

[BeHereNow]

2. In the words of Leonard Cohen...

"Absolute control over every living soul..."
We be fucked folks...
BHN

[Pallas180]

3. Hey BHN - not yet, not yet.....

We kicked up a fuss about the treatment of Sue Neidererer and
if we kick up enough fuss about this....the new KGB... we'll win too.

[troubleinwinter]

4. I was gonna ask...

...when in the history of this country have we had such a situation. Then you reminded me. The McCarthy era. I wasn't present then, have only read of it. "You're with us or against us" sounds very current.

[Warren DeMontague]

11. But the man also said

"democracy is comin'...

...to the U.S.A."

What the hell good does it do anyone to give up?

[AntiCoup2K4]

14. And in the words of Husker Du

A nine digit number
For every living soul
That is all they talk about
At data control
They know everything about you
Keeping secrets is too hard
Your life is all recorded for you
In holes punched in computer cards

Data control (digital readout)
Data control (perforated feedout)
Data control (microfilm files)
Data control (1984 style)

A multinational corporation
A stockholder's dream
A nightmare of diversity
A defense system so supreme
Too technical to talk about
Too complex for layman's brains
It's enough to make you paranoid
Or drive you crazy losers sane

[fearnobush]

5. Hey media, Only one man is to blame for lying us in to this illegal war.

That man is the Chimp in theif, he failed on 911, he failed in war, he's a failure of our country. The world knows this but you, the media cowards continue to fall for their bullshit. I guess Orwell mess up a bit, but only in title. He really ment to call it 2004, not 1984. So he was off by 20 years.

[Journeyman]

6. It is neither. . .

It is the U.S. in 2004, and unless and until the issue is addressed as such the message will be margianalized and the effort to discredit it made all the easier.

[caliope]

7. "THIS IS NUTS. IS THIS GERMANY 1938 OR RUSSIA 1950 ?"

Yeah, like both - but NOW is the only reality we can act in.
You can read history and know that we don't want results like '38. (It cost a lost of blood and pain to stop it.) '50 was a hyper reacton to Stalin's mess; I think it lost momentum because a lot of people closely remembered WWII and fascist results.
We can see this. but it's hard to get it across to people who've been so so Foxed up that they figure everything is spin.

[newyawker99]

12. Hi caliope!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Lex]

8. My opinion is this

[Pallas180]

9. Please E mail that gif to FOX. and all the other news stations

We all should start e mailing it.

[Pallas180]

10. ACT. DIAL 1-800-839-5276 start calling reps & sens in congress NOW

ACT. DIAL 1-800-839-5276 start calling reps & sens in congress NOW


Directory of Congress Critters-then use free number-1-800-839-5276


Directory of Congress Critters-then use free number-1-800-839-5276


www.congress.org - for a directory to ANYBODY in Congress, AND their

local/regional offices.

[Pallas180]

13. Gen.Tommy Franks:"Constitution will be discarded in favor of military govt

setting the stage for the PNAC plan:

http://www.911forthetruth.com/pages/AmendCom.htm


<32> On Friday, November 21, 2003, just days prior to the filing of this Amended Complaint, Retired Army General Tommy Franks the former commander of the military's Central Command warned, that if terrorists succeeded in using a weapon of mass destruction (WMD) against the United States or one of our allies, it would likely have catastrophic consequences for our cherished republican form of government. Frank further stated; if the United States is hit with a weapon of mass destruction that inflicts large casualties, the Constitution will likely be discarded in favor of a military form of government. (NewsMax). On “911” Plaintiff and her nation were hit by weapons of mass destruction and to date no one based upon “hard evidence” has been held responsible and Plaintiff holds standing to find and bring to account those responsible parties and through discovery and trial testimony Defendant GWB, et al., will provide Plaintiff and the People of the United States of America the who, what, why and how “911” occurred. Plaintiff asserts her willingness to find the truth will in the end, preserve our constitutional system of government if only afforded the right to be heard in this matter and to call credible and other concerned American Citizens to prove this Amended Complaint, its basis and claims are bona fide and will prevent destruction of our way of life through accountability by this Honorable Court..

[deckerd]

15. Russia 1950? Try Rome ca. 60 BC

Russia 1950? Please explain.

More like Rome 60 BC. Cassius goes off to fight in Iraq in the first of Rome's military disasters, while Caesar stays home and avoids the war entirely and gets elected Tribune of the People, plotting the transformation of the old Republic with its ungovernable factions...

[Lex]

16. Now that's a post after my own heart. I've been thinking the same thing.

The details of the slow decline and fall of the Roman Empire and the parallels to what's starting to happen today in the United States is simply amazing.

Downright scary, in fact.

Puts me in the mind of "Those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it."