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Jackeens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 01:54 PM
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Well, okay, I dislike McCain intensely, but....
At a town hall meeting in Sun City, Ariz., Sen. John McCain stuck up for the president in response to a questioner who challenged Obama's commitment to the Constitution.

"He respects the Constitution," McCain said, drawing loud boos from the crowd. "He is sincere in his beliefs. We just happen to disagree. He's the president of the United States. Let's be respectful."

http://www.politico.com/politico44/

Echoes of the campaign. I still don't like him, but: respect :-)
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JamesA1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 01:55 PM
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1. Yeah but his is lying about Healthcare reform big time
and none of the cable nets are correcting his bs.
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Jackeens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 01:56 PM
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2. Absolutely, no arguments. I just thought his response (above) was decent.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 01:57 PM
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3. You don't think that maybe he says those things to seem like a good guy?
Edited on Tue Aug-25-09 01:59 PM by Hippo_Tron
And because he knows it's smart to distance himself from the fringe nutjobs?

It reminds me of the West Wing episode where Vinick is accepting the Republican nomination and begins his speech by praising President Bartlet in spite of the booing of the crowds. Leo turns to Bartlet and says "those were some nice things he said about you sir" and Bartlet responds "yep, that bastard just won 5 million Democratic votes".
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Jackeens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 02:04 PM
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5. Most probably - but maybe the more fruitful option for him....
Edited on Tue Aug-25-09 02:09 PM by Jackeens
...would be to wade in with the lowest common denominator, ie the hate mob?

Trust me, I loathe him, I think he's a spiteful piece of work, but I will give him credit for responding as he does to these nutjobs (remember - "No Mam, he's not an A-rab...and he's a decent family man....etc, etc).
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 01:59 PM
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4. He's respectful once in a great while.
But he's not too respectful to lie when it suits him.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 05:14 PM
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16. That's about all I can say for him too. nt
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 02:05 PM
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6. The lady who just gone done questioning him was great
she asked Sen McCain, you've been on govt healthcare for most of your life. Why is it such a bad idea.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 02:18 PM
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7. and he avoided her.
to hell with him and his miniscule contribution to decency in actually saying obama supports the constitution? what?

why do the bad asses get such compliments when they do the teeniest decent thing and the hard working good hearted changers have to suffer for years and even then not get any recognition.

he's playing his game for his own benefit and I will not give his one ounce of respect or reconsideration after some of the super slimeball things he's said and done.
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invictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 11:43 PM
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21. +1
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jdlh8894 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 02:23 PM
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9. Question
Just what is "Government Health Care"? My Dad is with the USDA. My wife is a nutritionist w/the WIC Program.
They are both (and family) covered through BC/BS. So please explain "Government Health Care".
PS- They also pay out the a$$ for it
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 02:33 PM
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11. Medicare, Medicaid, Military Hospitals, the Veterans Administration, CDC, and FDA.

There may be more. I suppose the USDA and EPA provide some healthcare in that they ensure the safety of our food & water.

We all have "Government Health Care". The question is where to draw the line.

But to answer the question in the spirit you asked it, government healthcare as provided by doctors & hospitals would be Medicare, Medicaid, Military Hospitals, the Veterans Administration. So your parents (and half my family) are not on THAT government healthcare. McCain, on the other hand, has had his healthcare provided entirely by the taxpayers throughout most of his life.


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jdlh8894 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 02:43 PM
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13. Thank You! n/t
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 05:06 PM
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15. what do you mean when you say they pay out the ass for it?
co-pay's ? Their share of the premium?

Their 'employer' is the US Government, and any part of the insurance that is payed by their employer IS government sponsored health care. They may not be totally covered by the govt. but they ARE receiving a government funded health care.

I'm not saying they shouldn't have it- I'm saying everyone should have access to it. Your folks may very well have taken the jobs that they did in part because of the insurance that is offered. They may likely have been able to get a higher salary in the private sector, but without the health care benefits- I have a few friends who have done just this. But it is true that the portion of health care costs assumed by the employer, when that employer is the government come from taxes paid by the US taxpayers.


:hi:
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 02:23 PM
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8. All the credit I can give is he trys to keep his lies beyond the immediate surface
He's just a big a liar as most Republicans but he is slightly less obvious in them. He likes to get into areas that aren't pure black and white and then flings his poo.
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cleveramerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 02:26 PM
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10. I have been roundly savaged for suggesting the same thing
about republicans here.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 02:43 PM
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12. It turns out there is less to respect about McCain than we thought

Since the election he has completely betrayed the 'maverick' label and voted with the Republican line almost all of the time.

Incredibly his voting is more 'Republican' the Mitch or the other party leaders.

He is not stupid though and he knows that any personal comments he made would get big headlines.

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wowimthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 03:36 PM
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14. Networks let Republican talking heads spew lies ad-nauseum
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 05:34 PM
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17. This is at least the second time that's happened....
.... he has his moments.

Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7R-s-71csY

It was at this very moment when I knew McCain had lost the election .... his own people had turned on him.
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 10:14 PM
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18. McCain's all right, as a human being. He was mislead during the campaign,
by his handlers. But in the end he acted pretty decently toward and about Obama, in the face of the nuts in the crowds.

He respects the office of the Presidency, I think, and he genuinely likes other people, I think. He recently had some very kind words to say about Ted Kennedy, too (they're friends).
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Monk06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 10:30 PM
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19. He's the Grandpa Simpson of the Republican Party


Amusing but annoying if given too much attention
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CitizenPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 11:24 PM
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20. I deeply suspect that he's not remembering things
because he just supported Palin's death panel lies the other day -- and now this. It makes zero sense.

I feel bad for the guy at times. But he is on Arricept and I can't help but wonder if this is the real him and the rest of the time, he's being led around by nose or is he just unstable and inconsistent as a human being?

Yes, he did a good thing here. And it's too bad the teabagging constituents were nuts to him. No one deserves to be treated like that when they're conducting a civilized debate.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 10:46 AM
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22. Every now and then he forgets what meme he wants to push
I give him credit for this one incident, but there are so many times when he has been on the wrong side of the debate (i.e., healthcare, CIA investigations, etc).
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