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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 04:15 PM
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As Recently as 8/14 Dr Dean was Convinced the Public Option was WINNING
Edited on Sun Aug-16-09 04:16 PM by demwing
http://www.pww.org/article/articleview/16740/

Dean urged participants to not get discouraged. He said, "We're winning. Things have changed a lot. The anti-public option people are desperate. that's why they are making things up and appealing to the fringe. We're in good shape. We're going to win this fight. We're going to have a public option."


Is Dean lying to us? Is he naive? Or does he just know a little more about the dynamics of this subject than your average DUer?
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 04:17 PM
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1. (1) No. (2) I don't know. (3) Definitely.
We'll find out.

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quiller4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 04:26 PM
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2. I don't believe Dean is lying. I've read and re-read the AP story
and I don't think the contention that the White House is willing to drop public option is supported by what HHS Sec Gibbs said today.
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hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 06:33 PM
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7. You may have the key point here (I hope)
We've seen numerous cases when AP meant "Agents of the Plutocracy" rather than some acronym about the press. They may be trying to spin their wishes into reality. If you can get everyone to believe that something is winning, the appearance of inevitability makes it more likely. Here's hoping AP is just spinning.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 04:49 PM
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3. At that time, a month ago, it did appear to be winning.
Edited on Sun Aug-16-09 04:52 PM by OHdem10
Let us not attack Dean, the only honest real Democrat.

We have too many Dinos and others who will never take a stand
keep their hand to the wind and at last minute throw Activists
under the bus.

Wse were winning. This why the Conservatives and Town Hall Disruptors
came from the underground campaign and went public.
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 05:00 PM
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4. 8/14 was TWO DAYS AGO
not a month ago. LAST FRIDAY
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HopeOverFear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 05:02 PM
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5. LOL see how people don't read? Amazing.
:rofl:
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PopSixSquish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 05:04 PM
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6. I Saw Dr. Dean on KO Twice Last Week
He looked and sounded pretty confident to me. But apparently I'm not supposed to believe him?

Ok...
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 06:36 PM
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8. Dean is definitely a straight talker but things change fast in washington and he may not know
He also might be trying to put a postive spin on things even if it might be heading south in hopes of reviving...you dont save a drowning patient by watching him die.

The PO has received a serious blow this week that the MSM is sure to exploit all week long.
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uberblonde Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 06:43 PM
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9. Got this today.
White House statement via email list, no link:

Nothing has changed. POTUS has always said that what is essential is that health insurance reform must lower costs, ensure that there are affordable options for all Americans and increase choice and competition. He believes the public option is the best way to achieve those goals.
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 09:04 PM
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10. And there we go
"Nothing has changed"
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