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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-12-09 03:36 PM Original message |
Robert Reich: Right-wing getting away with attacks because there's still no healthcare plan! |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-12-09 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
1. Reich believes they're getting away with death panel claims because a bill hasn't been finalized? |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-12-09 03:56 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Mr. Reich is correct, as usual. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-12-09 04:01 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Claiming the RW is getting away with attacks because there are no specifics is nonsense. |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-12-09 04:11 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. They are all different. |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-12-09 04:24 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. What healthcare plan did President Obama want them to settle on? |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-12-09 04:31 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. It's easier to make the case with the mushy middle |
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debbierlus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-12-09 07:41 PM Response to Reply #15 |
38. Exactly. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-12-09 04:47 PM Response to Reply #11 |
25. I know the Blue Dogs didn't because my congressman |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-12-09 05:03 PM Response to Reply #11 |
29. They're not so different that you can claim there are no specifics. Still |
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masuki bance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-12-09 05:36 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. Answer these- Will there be a public option in the final bill? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-12-09 06:30 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. Answers: |
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masuki bance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-12-09 08:12 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. Guesses aren't good enough. nt |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-12-09 09:57 PM Response to Reply #42 |
50. How do you know they're guesses? n/t |
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masuki bance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-12-09 10:00 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Don't be obtuse. You are guessing at what will be in the final bill that Obama signs. nt |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-12-09 10:46 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. Don't be ignorant become informed. Your response shows |
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masuki bance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-12-09 10:50 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. lame. nt |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 09:05 AM Response to Reply #54 |
61. What a great response. n/t |
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jbnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 08:45 AM Response to Reply #11 |
60. If house and senate got it done as he requested |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-12-09 08:16 PM Response to Reply #8 |
43. That's irrelevant, too. |
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ncteechur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-12-09 04:52 PM Response to Reply #4 |
27. Mr Obama knew that there would be no bill before August break. |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-12-09 04:03 PM Response to Reply #1 |
9. Reich is full of shit, as usual. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-12-09 07:51 PM Response to Reply #9 |
41. Reich is an enemy of the people. n/t |
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chicago legal pro (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-12-09 09:39 PM Response to Reply #41 |
47. Send him to the wall! |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-12-09 09:41 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. He is a kulak and a counterrevolutionary. n/t |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-12-09 04:50 PM Response to Reply #1 |
26. I agree with you about Reich on this..I like his views but |
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phantom power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-12-09 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
2. I'd like to see Obama *selling* a government takeover... |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-12-09 09:27 PM Response to Reply #2 |
44. Single payer Medicare for All would have been a much easier "sell" and |
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Cant trust em (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-12-09 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
3. That would be true if the lies being spread were in any of the proposals |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-12-09 03:58 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. 4 different healthcare bills have been passed by Congress. Which one do you support and why? |
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TomCADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-12-09 04:01 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. The One That Does Not Have Death Panels. I'm Against That One |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-12-09 04:17 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. Cute, but your comment sidesteps the points made by Reich. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-12-09 04:54 PM Response to Reply #5 |
28. Not exactly true. |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-12-09 05:09 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Four bills have been passed in Congress by four different committees. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-12-09 05:31 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. A Bill passed out of Committee.... |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-12-09 03:59 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. What are President Obama's specific proposals? |
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Cant trust em (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-12-09 04:08 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. I do agree that it is time for more specific proposals |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-12-09 04:39 PM Response to Reply #10 |
19. President Obama hasn't even said a public option is one of his requirements in legislation .... |
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Cant trust em (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-12-09 04:45 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. I agree, but that still won't stop people from coming up with brazen lies |
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debbierlus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-12-09 07:49 PM Response to Reply #24 |
39. The right will lie and smear no matter what - that is why you fight AGAINST them & for good policy |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-12-09 07:49 PM Response to Reply #19 |
40. In his last Town Hall I think he gave.. |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-12-09 09:30 PM Response to Reply #40 |
45. "Probably too many words for most people." The solution: |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-12-09 09:32 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Nah..the solution.. |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-12-09 10:41 PM Response to Reply #46 |
52. Repetition is very important and is used in all effective propaganda campaigns |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-12-09 05:40 PM Response to Reply #6 |
34. During the Campaign, Obama made two specific proposals: |
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KakistocracyHater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-12-09 10:58 PM Response to Reply #3 |
55. this is about feelings, not facts-THAT is how the Right has gotten |
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timeforpeace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-12-09 04:19 PM Response to Original message |
13. The clever plan to not having anything concrete has backfired in a big way. Whose idea was that? |
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Political Tiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-12-09 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
14. Yes, I'm sure if there was a specific plan the right would be playing nice...... |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-12-09 04:42 PM Response to Reply #14 |
21. Not at all. It just helps to have a healthcare plan, don't ya think? |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-12-09 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
16. It also pays not to be tone deaf |
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ironrooster (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-12-09 04:26 PM Response to Original message |
17. Sounds about right to me - |
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TxRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-12-09 04:40 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. If he wants it to pass... n/t |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-12-09 04:43 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. He'll probably wind up signing whatever lame (no public option) ineffective plan Congress passes. |
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WCGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-12-09 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
23. Exactly.... |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-12-09 05:07 PM Response to Reply #23 |
30. It seems they went from one extreme to another. |
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WCGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-12-09 05:46 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. I understand why he did it.... |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-12-09 06:27 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. If Obama signs it he owns it along with the Democratic Party ..... |
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madville (743 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-12-09 09:55 PM Response to Reply #35 |
49. I think whatever is passed, any real changes won't take affect until after 2016 |
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SpartanDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-12-09 10:59 PM Response to Original message |
56. I guess he and others don't remember what happened to Clinton |
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DailyGrind51 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 08:19 AM Response to Original message |
57. Reich is correct, there needs to be a on-page summary document, |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 08:25 AM Response to Original message |
58. Spot. On. Whenever a Birther says "I have read the bill...", they are LYING |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 08:37 AM Response to Reply #58 |
59. There are four completed marked-up bills out of congressional committees |
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OwnedByFerrets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 09:49 AM Response to Original message |
62. Its been framed wrong from the onset. Medicare for ALL |
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