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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 09:28 AM Original message |
Obama as Health Care Salesman: He Sucks! |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 09:30 AM Response to Original message |
1. You're right... he should follow Hillary and Bill's tactics from 1993-94 |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 10:00 AM Response to Reply #1 |
8. I thought that it was a funny article. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 09:33 AM Response to Original message |
2. I love seeing your posts of bitter loser tears here (seriously). |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 10:02 AM Response to Reply #2 |
9. Always so ridiculous.......... |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 09:40 AM Response to Original message |
3. Odd post |
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Tuesday Afternoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 09:59 AM Response to Reply #3 |
7. +1 |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 11:50 AM Response to Reply #7 |
52. -2 |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 10:04 AM Response to Reply #3 |
10. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's 'right-wing'. |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 10:22 AM Response to Reply #10 |
17. The current system, which will be preserve, is fringe right-wing |
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Tuesday Afternoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 11:54 AM Response to Reply #17 |
53. True. |
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area51 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 11:55 AM Response to Reply #17 |
93. Great post. |
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CakeGrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 12:23 PM Response to Reply #3 |
62. Consider the OP. If it bashes the President, it gets posted. Simple. |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 09:46 AM Response to Original message |
4. Maybe Mark Penn has some ideas |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 10:04 AM Response to Reply #4 |
11. Who knows, maybe he does.......... |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 10:07 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Democrats version of Rove USED to be Carville |
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pnorman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 10:17 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Carville and/or Axelrod = Rove??? |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 10:28 AM Response to Reply #14 |
21. In job title and function... .not in policies..... They're our "QB", just like Rove was theirs |
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pnorman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 10:52 AM Response to Reply #21 |
38. I'll let this "pass", but I'm still flabbergasted at the comparison. |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 11:02 AM Response to Reply #38 |
40. It's like comparing FDR to Stalin in a very narrow sense: Both led their country to victory in WWII |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 10:17 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. I don't think that Carville is as nefarious as Axelrod. |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 10:27 AM Response to Reply #15 |
20. Axelrod is more effective |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 10:31 AM Response to Reply #20 |
25. Than Carville or Rove? |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 10:32 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. At winning. |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 10:35 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Well, the three of them saw their candidates win the presidency. |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 10:37 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. But Axelrod's tactics were better than Rove's... i.e. win with a positive message, not with fear |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 10:42 AM Response to Reply #30 |
34. Hmmm, there we disagree. |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 10:50 AM Response to Reply #34 |
37. "Hope and Change" is a better slogan than "Vote for us or the terrorists win" |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 11:24 AM Response to Reply #37 |
43. Yeah, but they are just slogans. |
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pnorman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 12:01 PM Response to Reply #26 |
56. As one who had supported Nader over Lieberman in 2000, |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 12:29 PM Response to Reply #56 |
64. I was probably one of them. |
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pnorman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 02:49 PM Response to Reply #64 |
70. And then again, maybe O'Bama IS Irish! |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 10:13 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. "The Dems version of Rove is Axelrod"...lol, ok. |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 10:28 AM Response to Reply #13 |
22. In one respect... Axelrod is our "QB", Rove is theirs. Ours is better. |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 09:47 AM Response to Reply #13 |
84. Beacool's still mad that Axelrod outsmarted the whole Clinton machine |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 09:46 AM Response to Reply #4 |
83. ROFL |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 09:46 AM Response to Original message |
5. Kaus: "half the Democrats are going to vote for McCain and I'm going to be one of them." |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 10:41 AM Response to Reply #5 |
33. holy shit |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 09:53 AM Response to Original message |
6. Obama sucks as a "salesman" for his "right wing" health care plan. |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 10:20 AM Response to Reply #6 |
16. Depressing, isn't it? Yesterday someone told me the Dems & unions conspire to destroy the working |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 10:23 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. "Axelrod always reminds me of Rove." - These people are just like birthers... |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 10:30 AM Response to Reply #18 |
24. Axelrod is different than Rove.... But consider them like boxers |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 10:34 AM Response to Reply #24 |
27. And both of them are just as cut-throat. |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 11:31 AM Response to Reply #18 |
47. Even if they are not actually right-wing trolls... |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 11:39 AM Response to Reply #47 |
50. Yep. They provide good humor value, though. |
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WI_DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
19. Not at all. He's going to succeed where Bill and Hillary failed and get health care. |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 10:29 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Oh, I have no doubt that we'll get some kind of health care bill passed. |
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yourguide (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 11:18 AM Response to Reply #23 |
42. It'll be better than what didnt get passed in 1993/1994 n/t |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 11:25 AM Response to Reply #42 |
44. And that's supposed to do what? |
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yourguide (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 11:27 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. It's the school of a moderate tactic to get some of it done... |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 11:38 AM Response to Reply #45 |
49. 15 years ago was not the same political climate than now. |
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yourguide (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 11:45 AM Response to Reply #49 |
51. And congress was more trustworthy in 1993/1994? |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 12:20 PM Response to Reply #51 |
59. Interesting........... |
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yourguide (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 12:29 PM Response to Reply #59 |
65. LMAO |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 12:34 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. Wrong, my friend. |
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yourguide (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 01:01 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. You support one democrat and anyone involved with that democrat |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 12:25 AM Response to Reply #66 |
74. Good post. |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 10:22 AM Response to Reply #74 |
90. I hear you. |
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Flying Dream Blues (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 09:56 AM Response to Reply #45 |
87. Exactly...anyone who thinks we can do this all at once is not |
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Flying Dream Blues (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 09:39 AM Response to Reply #44 |
80. Deleted and moved to reply to OP. nt |
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MarjorieG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
29. A lot of illness could be avoided, at a lesser treatment cost. Let's manage good health not illness. |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 10:37 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Kaus is not questioning that, he's just saying that Obama |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
32. dissappointing coming from kaus Bea. |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 10:43 AM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Hey, new banky!!! |
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Undercurrent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
36. Relevant? |
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yourguide (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 11:30 AM Response to Reply #36 |
46. consider the source that posted it n/t |
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Undercurrent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 04:32 PM Response to Reply #46 |
72. You are correct, of course. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
39. Skinny non-smokers get diseases, too. But they'll also pay less for insurance? |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 11:31 AM Response to Reply #39 |
48. Yep, too true. |
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ErinBerin84 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
41. lol |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 11:57 AM Response to Original message |
54. and the big smile is because...? |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 12:21 PM Response to Reply #54 |
60. Because it was funny. |
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AspenRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
55. Most people put titles of articles in quotes |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 12:22 PM Response to Reply #55 |
61. The article is quoted verbatim and I posted the link |
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AspenRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 01:34 PM Response to Reply #61 |
68. ROFL |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
57. What you find "funny" is and has been both... |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
58. ha ha. hillary still isn't president, dear. I love your misery over it. |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 12:24 PM Response to Reply #58 |
63. Hey, I'm not miserable. |
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jclincali (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 01:44 PM Response to Reply #58 |
69. Ugh, you're the one who seems miserable. |
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DailyGrind51 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
71. He needs to be more "FDR" and less "Adai Stevenson"! |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 09:44 PM Response to Original message |
73. Actually, I heard him speak in NJ today |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 12:48 AM Response to Original message |
75. Holy shit OP just triggered my PTSD from the primaries. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 01:19 AM Response to Reply #75 |
76. well the OP doesn't have to worry |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 01:26 AM Response to Reply #76 |
77. Wow! Lanny Davis was right for once after all! |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 01:43 AM Response to Original message |
78. We'll still be talking about healthcare reform in 2012... |
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Autumn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 08:43 AM Response to Original message |
79. Reading that cracked me up |
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Flying Dream Blues (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 09:42 AM Response to Original message |
81. It must be difficult to contemplate Obama doing yet another |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 09:45 AM Response to Original message |
82. I gotta believe he can do a btter job of it than Hillary, past experience |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 09:48 AM Response to Original message |
85. Congress sucks. Lets just be honest here |
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Flying Dream Blues (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 09:54 AM Response to Reply #85 |
86. Well, that's something to wish for, huh, Peacetrain? By your name |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 09:58 AM Response to Reply #85 |
88. Something we can fully agree on. |
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hughee99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 10:18 AM Response to Original message |
89. Chessmaster... and so forth. |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 10:23 AM Response to Reply #89 |
91. You're a patient person. |
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invictus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
92. The OP is still angry that Hillary didn't get the nomination. n/t |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 12:01 PM Response to Reply #92 |
94. Of course. And I love watching it. Every second of it. It's like winning again and again. |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-18-09 06:08 PM Response to Reply #94 |
95. You are delusional. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-18-09 06:11 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. There's nobody gladder than I that you continue to stick to your guns... |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-18-09 06:14 PM Response to Reply #96 |
97. I'm not defending myself. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-18-09 06:15 PM Response to Reply #97 |
98. Or explain, describe, or whatever verb you prefer. You rock on - I'll enjoy the show! |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-18-09 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
99. Wow, Beacool likes an article mocking Obama. What a shocker. |
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CakeGrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-18-09 07:58 PM Response to Reply #99 |
100. Meh. I thought this stupid thread sank! |
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