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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 09:55 PM
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Have you seen the ads against taxing soda pop to pay for health care?
I've seen two tonight, on MSNBC, and they make no sense.

They say that congress wants to tax "juice drinks" and soda, and other things we all enjoy to pay for health care. then it says, taxes don't make people healthy, exercise and eating right does.

Aren't Americans smart enough to say "my health care costs will no go away if I "live a healthy life style"?

It sounds completely stupid to me.

Anyone else?
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countingbluecars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 09:58 PM
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1. I saw that ad this evening,
and I thought that it did not make any sense.
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KaryninMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 09:59 PM
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2. I saw one this evening as well on MSNBC - very strange indeed
I was going to research who was behind them but hadn't gotten around to it yet.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 10:13 PM
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5. Americans Against Food Taxes
Wait'll you see who's part of the "coalition" but it won't be surprising.
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 10:52 PM
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11. Someone tell them that soda is not "food"!!!
Neither is beer, wine, whiskey or cigarettes!! What's good for some, is good for all!! NO???
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 10:03 PM
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3. Yes, I did, but they said "education", exercise and eating right does.
These ads seem to be directed to the parents of children or the children themselves. To whom else are these things important to and whom would be the largest consumers of fruit drinks and sodas? I haven't heard that those items will be taxed myself but those who are uninvolved in the health care crisis might believe it. It's curious just whom they are trying to stir shit up with? It could be a demographic to whom health care hasn't become a big problem in an attempt to get them involved.
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 10:08 PM
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4. Is this it?
There's an ad at the bottom of the page which matches what you're describing. It shows a family camping.

http://www.foodbev.com/opinion/no-tax-on-juice-drinks-and-soda-for-now
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 10:23 PM
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6. It's from "American's Against Food Taxes".
Which would be more aptly named something like "Front Group for Unhealthy Beverage Industry Against Taxes on Unhealthy Beverages".

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22americans+against+food+taxes%22
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spag68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 10:29 PM
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7. sodas
Personally I don't care if they would ban sodas altogether. I haven't had one in years, as my prime objective is to eliminate refined sugar and corn syrups from my diet.Of course I mean that in fun, as I know everyone has a right to drink poison if they want to, just like I have a right to ride without a helmut. Oops, I don't have a right to ride without a helmut, do I?
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rustydog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 10:34 PM
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8. Typical Repugnant GOP "Tax and Spend" rant...
These guys haven't had an original thought since the toe-tap trolling technique in airport men's rooms.
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 10:50 PM
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10. Thing is.......
it's not even "repugnent"!!! It's nothing....nada !!! lol
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 10:48 PM
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9. I for one am delighted with them!
They are pure "PAP" pablum, blah, bland = stupid in...stupid out!! I hope this is the best of all they've got!!! I guess pubs have no common sense. as well as stuck on stupid!!!:rofl:
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jbnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 10:59 PM
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12. They say it's taxing "simple pleasures". I want soda taxed.
Soda is not any more a simple pleasure then having a glass of wine or smoking a cigarette and they sure are taxed. Of those "simple pleasures" soda is the only one with no health benefits and obesity costs society far more than alcohol or drinking does.

Too lazy to look it up now but many studies have shown the far higher comparative costs of obesity compared to the others. Now a lot of that is because if smoking causes someone problems it tends to come late in life when a person is retired. A few decades ago obesity rate was about 10% and now it is over 33%. Strange.
Now soda is not the cause of obesity but represents junk food. Soda is not-nutrative calories.

People know the potential health benefits of alcohol...few know those of nicotine but they are very real, especially in being neuroprotective

A couple of ways nicotine helps is increasing the release of neurotransmitters and by quelling the hyperactivity of microglia that can turned against the aging brain, destroyong brain cells. Nicotine reduces cellular inflammation in the brain. Drug companies have been trying to find drugs that mimic this...but the only thing found to do what nicotine can is nicotine.

Drinking causes much pain and problems...smoking has health risks...but what is one good thing soda does?
Soda and candy should be taxed, of course they should. If they say healthy diet keeps us healthy they should insist soda be taxed.

And someone should maybe tell them that money actually is needed for health care...fuzzy phrases don't treat a broken leg.

This ad is crazy stupid.
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 12:23 AM
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13. Really intriguing to watch Repubz go turn on their Scare Tactics on America again...
It's like clockwork...really amazing. So try to scare by saying even the simple pleasures are going to be taxed to pay for healthcare...sadly i will not be surprised by the people being moved and the polls for public option support will lower. :crazy:

I really like the current tone of democrats, especially the whitehouse in their stand that this is going to happen even without bipartisan support. Excellent!
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mp9200 Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 04:35 AM
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14. what bullshit
People are drinking too much soft drinks as it is. What better way to raise funds for health care than to raise the price of that stuff?
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 08:36 AM
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15. That commercial impressed me as idiotic.
I know a number of people who would be alive today if exercise and eating right guaranteed good health.

The same companies who are most likely sponsoring those ads are also bribing schools to sell their products. So while they say people should eat a healthy diet, they are at the same time, pushing soda and heavily sweetened drinks on school kids.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/21/AR2007032101966.html
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 08:40 AM
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16. "taxes don't make people healthy." Of course they can. Look at Medicare.
We all pay for it in taxes and it has increased the health of our elderly population because more of them have been able to access health care they might not have in the past.

This is bullshit.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 08:53 AM
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17. Not Yet. But I'm happy and excited about it. I strongly believe in taxing that shit.
People basically drinking down drano like it's soda.
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joanie Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 10:13 AM
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18. BIG Bucks produced that propaganda
I saw it on primetime CNN - that's huge bucks. It probably wasn't funded by a group of American families on their way to a picnic. Since when has soda become food anyway - oh that's right, since diabetes has become an epidemic.
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