Waxman on Hartmann - House health care bill WILL have public option

[Doctor_J]

I guess WSJ was lying today. What a surprise.

[lumberjack_jeff]

1. The house has never been in doubt. n/t

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

2. The house is a whole lot more in touch with the people than the Senate. nt

[Cha]

3. President Obama sent a message from Russia

today and said basically the same thing..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8515050

I'm sure wsj got some knee jerks goin' on DU.

[walldude]

7. Knees are jerking because it'll never get out of the Senate.

Hemming and hawing and 1.4 million a day on lobbying. Yeah, I should be grateful things are going so well :eyes:

[Cha]

9. Why? You've already

decided they won't.

[walldude]

8. Knees are jerking because it'll never get out of the Senate.

Hemming and hawing and 1.4 million a day on lobbying. Yeah, I should be grateful things are going so well :eyes:

[Thrill]

4. WSJ has an agenda as always. I don't even read that bullshit

[shireen]

5. is there a list somewhere of all senators and representatives opposed to the public option? nt

[masuki bance]

11. Here's Mary, Dianne and Blanche-

"...Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-La.) said on Tuesday that she is opposed to the creation of a public health care plan patients could opt into that would compete with private insurance.

"No, I'm not open to it. I'm not open to a public option," said Landrieu. "However, I will remain open to a compromise, a full compromise. Public option is not something that I support. I don't think it's the right way to go."...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/09/mary-landrieu-opposed-to_n_213211.html

Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) just pulled a Dianne Feinstein, saying there aren't enough votes in the Senate for a public option, and that he'll work with conservative Democrats and moderate Republicans to pass a bill without one.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/dianne-feinstein/

After telling CNN on June 22 that she didn't think Barack Obama "has the votes right now" to pass a public option plan, Sen. Dianne Feinstein caught some pointed criticism from health care advocates.

Richard Kirsch, Health Care For America Now's national campaign manager, told Talking Points Memo that "Senator Feinstein should know better than anyone given the state of the economy in California that health care reform cannot wait." MoveOn.org reacted similarly, airing an advertisement that told Feinstein Californians "don't expect her to lead just on the easy issues."

Feinstein had a chance Sunday to answer these criticisms. "I do not think this is helpful," She told the Washington Post. "It doesn't move me one whit. are spending a lot of money on something that is not productive."

http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/141027/why_is_dianne_feinstein_really_poo-pooing_obama%27s_public_option/

Lincoln prefers co-op to government-run public option in health care

LITTLE ROCK — U.S. Sen. Blanche Lincoln, D-Ark., says she prefers private insurance cooperatives to a government-run provider that would compete with the private sector in reforming the nation’s health care system.

“We want to keep what works in the private industry and make it better,” Lincoln told Arkansas reporters in a conference call today. “There’s a lot of discussion about what else we might need that we can’t get from the private sector.”

http://arkansasnews.com/2009/06/18/lincoln-prefers-co-op-to-government-run-public-option-in-health-care/


2 minutes on google. Those are just the first 3 I checked.

[flpoljunkie]

6. The House is not the problem. It's Max Baucus' Senate Finance Committee.

[masuki bance]

10. Waxman said that the Rahm quotes in the paper were lies? nt

[vaberella]

13. Can you provide me with the link for this WSJ article?

Is it by Janet Adamy?

Otherwise, here is a link as to where Obama stands and he apparently is not agreeing with Rahm.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/7/7/750827/-Obama-walks-back-Rahm-on-public-option-(from-Russia)!

You can also look at post #3.

[masuki bance]

14. I don't see the disagreement, maybe you could point it out.

here is the link - http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124692407982802911.html

[vaberella]

15. I needed confirmation that it was the silly Janet Adamy article.

Which it is...I don't see the quotes by Rahm everyone is talking about. I again see someone's interpretation of his words which I'm sure they interpreted the writer wanted too. There were two quotes of Rahm and none of which dispelled or stated there would not be a public option. Hence the reason I don't see why people are harping on Rahm. That is my only disagreement.

Rahm didn't lie nor did Obama have to walk back anything such as the DailyKos article suggested, because Rahm had only two quotes in the entire article and the rest is an op-ed of what the writer felt was this or that and what she said they said. And at that point, anything could be taken out of context. Something is a quote when it is in quotations, when it's not and it's just the writer describing the scenario it can go anywhere.

[Doctor_J]

16. he probably figures that anyone listening to Hartmann knows the Journal

is a right-wing Republican propaganda outlet that lies pretty much every day.

[avaistheone1]

12. It's the Senate version we are more concerned about.

[Kingofalldems]

17. Rove's DU pal will not like this one

Way to go Henry.